All To address the issue of multiple membership classes:
Why Full vs Student? It's safe to claim that individuals working professionally differ substantially from students. This is not just financial. Future work, initiatives, and benefits may require differentiation (e.g. student run committees, events, etc). Life membership was seen as an early cash infusion for NewNOG. This class is not substantially different than Full membership other than lack of recurring dues. It made sense to us to state this in the bylaws. Maybe it doesn't, and if so, this can be corrected after the fact without harm done. Our operations community lacks a method of recognition for the highest contributions to our industry. NewNOG aims to be self sufficient, and for that reason shouldn't rely on other organizations to provide honors or distinction for members of our community. We have included the Fellow class in the bylaws for the same reason as Life membership. The Membership WG had 18 sets of eyes on the process, so given the size we had to run on rough consensus. There were several reviews both internal to the WG and external to the WG which were taken seriously. The first draft of the bylaws sent to nanog-futures two weeks ago received quite a bit of feedback. There were changes made to reflect this input. This was largely removing unnecessary complexity which reduced the text by 50%. The questions to ask now are: * Are the bylaws functional? * Can they be fixed if there are issues? Foreseen or not. I believe the answer to both is 'yes'. -- kris On Oct 2, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Daniel Golding wrote: > LOL. It can't work both ways. Either this is a coup put on by a few control > freaks or its a mess because a whole bunch of people were involved. Maybe its > both! > > Perhaps someone from the membership group can speak up and let us know how > they came to the decisions that they did - I'm working from second-hand > knowledge here. However, there were many folks involved. Randy - are you > really this bent out of shape over student memberships that may never get > utilized? > > Or maybe someone from the steering committee can step up and comment. That > would be refreshing. > > - Dan > > On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Randy Bush <ra...@psg.com> wrote: > > It's too late to make changes before the election, so these bylaws > > will just have to be voted up or down. > > then down. > > and don't start with the "this is time critical." lack of listening > (folk have been complaining on this one for a while) planning is not > cause for me to panic. > > this has been a massively sloppy process and i just can't condone it. > > randy > > _______________________________________________ > Nanog-futures mailing list > Nanog-futures@nanog.org > https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures > > _______________________________________________ > Nanog-futures mailing list > Nanog-futures@nanog.org > https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
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