"The mission *includes* education and outreach to the academic community" is not the same as "The mission is education and outreach to the academic community".
On Oct 27, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Sean Figgins wrote: > On 10/27/10 2:50 PM, kris foster wrote: >> The mission includes education and outreach to the academic community. >> If students are not implied, then maybe we're working on different >> definitions of some of these words. >> 3. Mission >> The purpose of NewNOG is to provide forums in the North American region for >> education and the sharing of knowledge for the Internet operations community. >> >> [snip] >> >> NewNOG serves as a bridge between the technical staff of leading Internet >> providers close to network operations, technical communities such as >> standards bodies, and the academic community. > > I see nowhere in there that defines that NewNOG is exclusively for the > benefit of students. The term "for education" does not mean exclusively > for students. In only means that it is for those that which to be > educated or seem knowledge. > > I see nowhere in the bylaws that state that student membership has a > higher value than normal membership that requires it to be discounted. > > I stand by my position that students should get no more of a discount > than someone else that is at an equal or greater hardship. And even > then, I am not sure what benefit this brings to the NewNOG > organization. If we are so concerned with this, then we should > re-evaluate the fees, and set membership at $25/year for everyone. > Let's level the field for everyone. I have known full time students > that had more money to throw around than full time network engineers > with a wife and 3 kids. Where is their parent discount? Even the US > government gives assistance to families in hardship conditions. > > Membership is exclusively for governance. Membership is not required > for conference attendance. Students already get a discount for > conference attendance. If they want to play in governance, then let > them pay the same as everyone else. > > -Sean > > > _______________________________________________ > Nanog-futures mailing list > Nanog-futures@nanog.org > https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures _______________________________________________ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures