On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 02:07:03PM -0600, Sean Figgins wrote:
> On 10/27/10 1:02 PM, Daniel Golding wrote:
> >
> > I suspect the board will set some kind of a discount for students.
> > Personally, I would support a very large discount for full time students.
> >
> > That being said, I'm also a bit disappointed that the specific student
> > membership didn't survive. I think the educational mission is extremely
> > important from both an altruistic and a business point of view (business
> > == our real businesses, not NANOG).
>
> This was an area where the WG had quite a bit of discussion, and student
> discounts never got unanimous support. NewNOG is not a student
> organization that is supported by obligatory student (college) fees
> that, in turn, fund the organization. It is not an organization that
> targets students as part of it's mission, not a student outreach
> organization. NewNOG is a not-for-profit organization formed to provide
> a set of mailing lists, and organize events, such as semi-annual
> conferences.
>From bylaws:
"The purpose of NewNOG is to provide forums in the North American
region for education and the sharing of knowledge for the Internet
operations community."
and
"NewNOG serves as a bridge between the technical staff of leading
Internet providers close to network operations, technical communities
such as standards bodies, and the academic community."
> When we were discussing the fee structure in August and September, I
> used this argument, and nobody could offer me a convincing counter
> argument. My argument was... If we are offering a "fellow" membership
> for someone that has contributed a extraordinary amount to the
> community, then are we saying that students are more important to the
> community than people that would be regular members? That students
> contribute more to the value of NewNOG than people that are not students?
Growing the base. As a community, we routinely gripe about the existing
training (both the now-extant academic track and vendor-specific in
workplaces) and from where the next generation will come. Seems that
directly engaging thw student population is better than indirectly
hoping that the right moths are attracted to our flames.
Cheers,
Joe
--
RSUC / GweepNet / Spunk / FnB / Usenix / SAGE
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