Near-instant updates may be unrealistic as it would require monitoring of feeds 
for changes - 24 hours is more than suitable. Update your Geofeed data before 
your subnet goes live.

Just to throw in my 2c on the topic - geofeed data should come from the Geofeed 
attribute on an INETNUM or INET6NUM Whois record. Failing that, fallback to 
manual data submitted from the network operator. As a last record, use the 
Country attribute from the Whois records.

As I'm typing this, I have seen Abdullah's reply to Gary: Geofeed attributes 
SHOULD NOT (in the IETF/RFC sense) be the fallback. They should be the first 
source of GeoIP data, if it is available. This is IMO where the frustration 
lies with GeoIP data taking unacceptable amounts of time to update, not using 
it as the first method.

Regards,
Christopher Hawker
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From: Mike Lyon via NANOG <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2026 2:08 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
<[email protected]>; Mike Lyon <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Geofeeds are good — was Re: Publishing BGP communties for your 
network (Re: What's up with BGP communities?)

One pain in the ass part of geolocation is that it takes a company anywhere 
from 1 - 3 weeks until they push their “update” to their systems.

If these are eyeball customers, that isn’t really acceptable.

The geo-ip companies need to find a way to do near-instant updates.

-Mike

> On Jan 27, 2026, at 18:40, Abdullah DevRel of IPinfo via NANOG 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Please do not lump us with the rest of the industry. We are not the singular 
> representation of the industry. By methods, operations, and philosophy, we 
> try to distance ourselves from the faults of the industry. If your customers 
> are having issues with geolocation, just talk to us. We will investigate.
>
> We are not the representative of the entire industry. We are not a 
> "benevolent monopoly", we are in the maybe top 3 IP geolocation providers in 
> the world, and we are trying our absolute best to have as many interactions 
> to fix our data..
>
> We invested in a massive scale network infrastructure, research program, and 
> huge data investment just because geofeed-based IP geolocation, which has 
> been the standard model for the IP geolocation industry, causes so many 
> headaches for end users. Even with that, we have a support team, social 
> media, researchers going to conferences, and DevRel responding to user 
> queries because no matter how much technical and research investment we make, 
> there will be gaps, so we should be able to respond to user queries and help 
> out.
>
> — Abdullah | DevRel, IPinfo
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