> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stefan Bodewig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 7:32 AM
> Subject: [nant-dev] NAnt and Ant (was: Ready to tackle next release)
>

> On Tue, 7 Oct 2003, Gert Driesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > great to see that one of the driving forces
>
> thanks
>
> > behind Ant is also interested in NAnt :)
>
> More and longer than you think. ;-)
>
>
<http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=463245&forum_id=863>

Didn't know about that, actually ... I wasn't yet involved in NAnt
development that that time ... Too bad there was no follow-up after that ...
a missed opportunity if you ask me ...

>
> I'd think that Ian and Gerry would remember that.  I've never
> unsubscribed since then, but must admit that much of the things you
> discuss are simply beyond my knowledge of .NET (close to zero ;-).  To
> me you are talking about "b�hmische D�rfer" as we'd say in Germany
> (bohemian villages?).

I think its quite a small step from Java to .NET, until about a year ago I
used only Java myself ...

>
> It seems as if our main customer (talking about real life now) insists
> on switching to .NET as their strategic platform of choice as Tomcat
> isn't as nicely integrated into IIS as they'd like it.  So I have some
> personal drive to take a closer look at NAnt.

We would definitely welcome any feedback or proposals you have regarding
NAnt.

> One side effect is that I've helped Steve (very little, mainly via
> testing) to get Ant's <csc> into shape for Mono.  There is no way I'd
> also leave my Unix environment for development.  IIS in VMWare for
> testing may be OK, but other than that ... 8-) The result is that Ant
> 1.6's <csc> seems to work reasonably well with Mono 0.28 on Linux as
> well as Mac OS X.
>
> I'll probably stick to Ant instead of NAnt myself as there'll always
> be a Java VM on my system anyway - and I love to contribute to Ant
> (and have some dogmatic problems with NAnt's license, you know -
> probably my fault, not yours).

We're planning on moving to an Apache or BSD style license, so that should
make you feel a little more comfortable :-)

>
> Should I change the subject from "NAnt and Ant" to "NAnt and Stefan"?

LOL

>
> OK, NAnt and Ant.  From what I understand they started out very close
> to each other and have developed independently - and come to similar
> results in some places nonetheless.  Ant 1.6 allows all tasks to live
> as children of <project> for example.
>
> I'd love to share ideas between the projects, I'd love to use the same
> concepts and I'm sure other Ant developers feel the same.  There are
> obviously some areas where we have different opinions, the "Ant should
> not be used as a scripting language" dogma for example.
>
> If you want to take my mail as a fresh start to revive cross-community
> discussions, that's great.  I'm not sure which forum would be the best
> one for this type of discussion, though.

Not sure about that myself, but we definitely should not let this
opportunity go by ...

Do you actually have any idea what the position of Apache is on .NET ?  Are
they planning .NET projects ?

In my opinion, the .NET community really lacks coordination right now ..
Which is something Apache does a terrific job at for the Java open-source
community .

Gert



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