On 7/4/06, Jay Flowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
We could use ILMerge.exe to merge separate project outputs in the
build process so that we get the best of both worlds.
On 7/4/06, Gert Driesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
>
> Hi Shmarya,
>
> This is actually something that needs further discussion. Right now,
> NAntContrib consists of a single "extension" assembly
> (NAnt.Contrib.Tasks.dll ).
>
> This approach makes it easier for users to deploy and reference the
> NAntContrib extensions, but introduces issues when we want to allow building
> NAntContrib on Mono, as COM interop (for example) is not available on Mono.
>
> Splitting up the NAntContrib extension assembly into smaller assemblies
> would be an option for this. The NAntContrib build process would then just
> skip the build of some of these assemblies, depending on the target
> framework (and/or platform). Ofcourse, creating a separate extension
> assembly for each task that relies on a third party library would become
> unmanagable (for both us and build authors).
>
> We'll first have to inform/consult the NAntContrib users, and then agree on
> how exactly, if at all, this split-up will be done.
>
> About the <nunit2> task: one option would be to move the <nunit2> task to
> NUNit cvs. But this needs more thought. Perhaps we should introduce an
> <nunit-console> task that would just be a wrapper for nunit-console. The
> advantage of this task would be that we can allow unit tests to run on the
> active target framework.
>
> eg. even when running NAnt on MS.NET 2.0, we'd be able to support running
> unit tests on MS.NET 1.0.
>
> This can ofcourse not be achieved when using the NUNit API.
>
>
> Gert
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Shmarya Rubenstein
> To: Gert Driesen
> Cc: nant-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 11:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [nant-dev] Nant contributions or where nant is going?
>
> Hi Gert...
>
> If you want, I can fold the Telnet code into the Nant.Telnet assembly. This
> will get rid of the extra dependency....
>
> I can create a patch, do you want udiff?
>
> I'm very familiar with cvs. BTW: I am one of the developers on NUnit, and
> I'd also like to take a look at updating the NUnit task....
>
> Thanks,
> Shmarya
>
>
> On 7/4/06, Gert Driesen < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Shmarya,
> >
> > I did have a look at the task you submitted, but I was hesitant to add it
> to NAntContrib back then, as it does add another external dependency (telnet
> library). But for NAntContrib this is not really an issue, I guess.
> >
> > Would you be willing to create a patch against NAntContrib cvs ? If the
> patch checks out fine, I'll either commit it myself or give you permissions
> to commit it yourself.
> >
> > Are you familiar with cvs ?
> >
> > Gert
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >
> > From: Shmarya Rubenstein
> > To: Gert Driesen
> > Cc: nant-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 11:22 AM
> > Subject: Re: [nant-dev] Nant contributions or where nant is going?
> >
> >
> > Suggestion:
> >
> > Why don't you give a list of open issues that are up for grabs and let
> people pick something to try?
> >
> > PS: I tried to submit a task to nant-contrib a while back (telnet task)
> and got zero response after a number of mails to the lists...
> >
> >
> > On 7/3/06, Gert Driesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On
> > > > Behalf Of Flex
> > > > Sent: maandag 3 juli 2006 11:10
> > > > To: Gert Driesen;
> nant-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > Subject: Re: [nant-dev] Nant contributions or where nant is going?
> > > >
> > > > Hey, thanks for the answer, I was about to get desperate ;)
> > > >
> > > > Can you clear this one:
> > > > > We definitely have a lack of contributors. With this I'm
> > > > not talking about
> > > > > people that post new tasks, but we need developers &
> > > > designers for improving
> > > > > the NAnt core.
> > > > >
> > > > > NAnt core is indeed pretty stable, but it could always do with some
> > > > > performance improvements.
> > > > >
> > > > ... first one says core needs work, tasks later, while the
> > > > second - core
> > > > is ready, only some optimizations left? IMO getting the
> > > > system rich in
> > > > functionality is more important than letting the build finish
> > > > 2 seconds
> > > > earlier.
> > >
> > > I'm not saying that new tasks cannot be added, but they should first be
> > > added to NAntContrib.
> > >
> > > I just think that there's less need for task developers (as users tend
> to
> > > contribute these), but we need more developers that master the NAnt core
> > > source code, so we can kill some of the open bugs and improve in areas
> where
> > > we currently only offer poor solutions (eg. lack of input framework, bad
> XML
> > > schema generation, ...).
> > >
> > > That said, we never reject an offer for help: if you're more interested
> in
> > > developing new tasks, then we'd be glad to accept you as developer for
> the
> > > NAntContrib project (to start from).
> > >
> > > > > You're definitely not gonna get hanged. We welcome all feedback!
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you volunteering to become part of the NAntContrib team ?
> > > > >
> > > > > If you are, first start by submitting patches to the
> > > > NAntContrib developer
> > > > > list for review. If your patches meet our quality level,
> > > > we'll make you a
> > > > > member of the project.
> > > > >
> > > > > After that, you can dive into the NAnt codebase.
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you think ?
> > > > >
> > > > I have used nant as an excuse to start C# programming, always
> > > > wanted to
> > > > gather some experience in it, but haven't found the right project to
> > > > work on. So I'm complete newbie, C# knowledge for 2 days, and
> > > > no matter
> > > > how much I pay attention to write clean code, I'm sure it is far from
> > > > good at this point, so unless I get more experienced it is
> > > > best not to
> > > > mess with the core.
> > > > While I may not be worth for a member of nant-contrib because I'm
> > > > overloaded with projects and deadlines, I'm completely open to
> > > > submitting new/modified tasks to nant-contrib,
> > >
> > > That would be great.
> > >
> > > > I do what I
> > > > need and can
> > > > submit with a hope it will be useful for the rest too. 2
> > > > things bothers
> > > > me here:
> > > >
> > > > 1. The personal opinion of what is good. For example I'm
> > > > doing some task
> > > > with 3 attributes, okay I make it exactly as I need it and
> > > > submit. If it
> > > > is accepted, it will become part of the nant-contrib.
> > > > However, since the
> > > > tasks fills my needs, to become useful to the public it needs
> > > > attrib 1
> > > > to be changed to accept different values and 2 more to be added. This
> > > > leads to deprecated attribute at best which is not good. At
> > > > worse, the
> > > > whole task has to be redesigned to have the same or better
> > > > functionality
> > > > while suits the others too. Idea: board where users can discuss new
> > > > tasks or task enchantments so they can be made right from the first
> > > > time? Mailing lists are quite bad for this purpose.
> > >
> > > I prefer reaching a large audience, as changes often impact a large
> number
> > > of users.
> > >
> > > > 2. What is good and bad for nant-contrib, i.e. will <taskX>
> > > > be accepted?
> > > > For example I saw no UI tasks anywhere, nothing but a
> > > > commandline. Since
> > > > I'm converting my build systems (based of bat files & support
> > > > programs)
> > > > I miss some stuff, i.e. warning messages which I can choose
> > > > to ignore or
> > > > stop the build, a nice UI with some project information giving me the
> > > > possibility to alter some settings and select the way it
> > > > should go from
> > > > there, etc?
> > >
> > > There's (almost) no limit to the types of tasks that are accepted for
> > > NAntContrib.
> > >
> > > Criteria for NAnt are much stricter, but not clearly outlined.
> > >
> > > Gert
> > >
> > >
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