That makes sense -- I'm only starting to look behind the hood of
Linkurious, so it's a bit of a learning curve for me!
Best,
JB
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Michael Hunger <
michael.hun...@neopersistence.com> wrote:
> which is correct as when using Neo4j with code one should use parameters
> which are these things in curly braces.
>
> which your neo4j statement correctly complains about -> "no parameter
> 'for' " (for is probably also a misleading name for a value)
>
> Am 17.03.2014 um 13:09 schrieb Jean-Baptiste Gallopin <
> jbgallo...@gmail.com>:
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for that! It worked.
>
> Maybe someone will want to update the reference card? It says we should
> use brackets with the SET command:
>
> SET
>
> SET n.property = {value},
> n.property2 = {value2}
>
> Update or create a property.
>
> All the best,
>
>
> Jean-Baptiste
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 2:27 AM, Michael Hunger <
> michael.hun...@neopersistence.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Glad you made so much progress, well done.
>>
>> You just want to set the attribute to a string value? Just use normal
>> double quotes.
>>
>>
>> MATCH (a)-[:`is member of`|`heads`]->(b)
>>> WHERE (b.name="Interim Transitional National Council (NTC)") or (b.name="NTC
>>> Executive Board")
>>> SET a.revolution_attitude = "for"
>>
>>
>>>
>> The Cypher Reference Card might come handy for you:
>> http://neo4j.org/resources/cypher
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> Am 16.03.2014 um 18:14 schrieb Jean-Baptiste Gllpn <jbgallo...@gmail.com
>> >:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> a quick update on my project and a question. Thanks to Linkurious, I've
>> been able to start building (by hand and from scratch) my database of
>> Libyan political elites. I'm gathering data through my readings of books
>> and news sources. The network, with 125 nodes (individuals and
>> organizations) and 168 relationships, is still small but growing:
>>
>>
>> <https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-f9y2c69YtcM/UyXap51TlbI/AAAAAAAAAQA/o9b7vLYP7GA/s1600/Capture+d%E2%80%99e%CC%81cran+2014-03-15+a%CC%80+22.12.15.png>
>>
>>
>> It includes both biographical information (node attributes) and details
>> on politically relevant relationships (alliances, kinship, antagonism, etc).
>>
>> I'm now messing about with Cypher to see how I can modify large segments
>> of the database rapidly. I'm trying to add a new property to all nodes of a
>> certain kind: all members of the Transitional National Council (the
>> political leadership of the 2011 revolution) should have a
>> revolution_attitude property set to 'for':
>>
>> MATCH (a)-[:`is member of`|`heads`]->(b)
>>> WHERE (b.name="Interim Transitional National Council (NTC)") or (b.name="NTC
>>> Executive Board")
>>> SET a.revolution_attitude = { `for` }
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately it's returning an error:
>>
>>
>> Expected a parameter named for
>>
>> Neo.ClientError.Statement.ParameterMissing
>> The error seems to come from the third line. I've tried fiddling with the
>> syntax of that line, removing the ` and the brackets, etc but nothing works.
>>
>> Any idea as to where this is coming from?
>>
>> Many thanks again for your help.
>>
>> Jean-Baptiste
>>
>> On Friday, February 21, 2014 11:13:07 PM UTC, Jim Salmons wrote:
>>>
>>> No problem, we're here to help.
>>>
>>> One last point, you will find that you can get a working knowledge of
>>> Cypher in short order, like hours not days. With just a basic starting
>>> point you will evolve from these basic skills and incrementally add new
>>> insights and tactics as you need them. Before you know it that basic skill
>>> grows to familiarity without painful and time consuming effort up front.
>>>
>>> Good luck with your studies.
>>>
>>> --Jim--
>>>
>>> In many decades of learning and using all kinds of programming languages
>>> and query languages, I can confidently say that the Neo folks have managed
>>> to craft the most powerfully intuitive means to work with the unique power
>>> of graph database technology.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 20, 2014 4:21:40 PM UTC-6, Jean-Baptiste Gllpn
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for your comments and encouragements.
>>>>
>>>> Jim -- you seem to be reading a lot into who I am and what I do. I
>>>> merely deleted the post because it indadvertedly included my full name and
>>>> I was not able to edit it. My approach to sociology is mostly qualitative
>>>> and my current focus on Arabic language study, interview research design
>>>> and country-specific knowledge means that I cannot dedicate time to
>>>> learning Cypher in-depth at the moment. It will come in due time, once I
>>>> have gathered sufficient data to do some serious analysis. In the meantime,
>>>> Jean has been very helpful and I am going to use Linkurious to get started
>>>> on building my database.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you all again! I might nag you with more questions once I'm a bit
>>>> more advanced with my project.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Jean-Baptiste
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Jim Salmons <jim.s...@softalkapple.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Erik and Jean,
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 to you both. Sadly, judging by the deletion of the post that
>>>>> prompted my reply, I think our community is more willing to
>>>>> help Jean-Baptiste than he is willing to learn. There's that old saying
>>>>> about horses and water that seems to ring true here.
>>>>>
>>>>> And congrats Erik on your can-do spirit. Good luck with your studies.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Jim--
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, February 20, 2014 2:18:16 PM UTC-6, Erik Hanson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste, I recently did an MA project using neo4j (graphing
>>>>>> characters and elements of a video game), and I don't have much of a
>>>>>> background in programming (I got my BA in rhetoric and poetry). I started
>>>>>> my MA project using Neoclipse, but I found that even with a fairly small
>>>>>> graph, things got really slow very quickly. It turned out to be much
>>>>>> quicker to learn just enough Cypher to enter new nodes and
>>>>>> relationships. I
>>>>>> encourage you to try it out--just experimenting with things in a
>>>>>> GraphGist <http://gist.neo4j.org/> may be enough for you to learn
>>>>>> the elements of Cypher that you need. I can't claim that my own Cypher
>>>>>> stuff was perfect or terribly pretty, but it was straightforward and did
>>>>>> just about what you are talking about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you're willing to give it a shot, I'm willing to try to help walk
>>>>>> you through things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:40:32 AM UTC-6, Jean Villedieu
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Jim : +1, a deep understanding of the underlying tech behind data
>>>>>>> is key.
>>>>>>> @Jean-Baptiste : you should reach out, I'm sure we can help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you Michael for mentioning Linkurious ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jean
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, February 16, 2014 10:40:25 PM UTC+1, Jim Salmons wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I absolutely do not intend to sound negative, but as a PhD student
>>>>>>>> in Sociology you will be in trouble in your career if you cannot
>>>>>>>> distinguish between a graph database query language and "development
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> coding" in your mind.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Michael gave you good advice about Linkurious, but that is not some
>>>>>>>> Magic Bullet. You won't just crank up an app/tool (whatever you want to
>>>>>>>> call it) and just do what you want in all cases. Sure, the obvious
>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>> will be covered. But do you think that your investigation will be
>>>>>>>> limited
>>>>>>>> only to what everybody else does? Probably not if you want to be known
>>>>>>>> as a
>>>>>>>> smart person who can bring new and non-obvious insights into your work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A big part of your career will be looking at and manipulating data.
>>>>>>>> As a professional you will often have to provide the "glue" that gets
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> data into, out of, and between whatever tools you have available.
>>>>>>>> Whether
>>>>>>>> it is Cypher or some other means, you need to break your mental block
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> says, "I don't do coding." Years from now you will be thanking
>>>>>>>> yourself for
>>>>>>>> doing it sooner than later.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Look, I'm 63 years-old and don't have to make the decisions you are
>>>>>>>> facing now. But I am also smart enough (make that, have decades of
>>>>>>>> experience to reflect on) to know that if I had it all to do over
>>>>>>>> again and
>>>>>>>> I were in your shoes, I'd be digging into neo4j with a passion and
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> would be nothing that could keep me from learning and growing my
>>>>>>>> knowledge
>>>>>>>> of Cypher (along with other things of that ilk).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is a famous scene in the film, "The Graduate," where a
>>>>>>>> graduation party-goer leans over to Dustin Hoffman to give him career
>>>>>>>> advice and whispers, "Plastics!" That's what I'm trying to do for you,
>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste, "Cypher!" You do that, join this group, ask honest
>>>>>>>> well-prepared questions that will get helpful timely answers, and you
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> be well on your way to carving a good niche (there's that social
>>>>>>>> network
>>>>>>>> stuff creeping in as #graphsareeverywhere) for you in your career.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good luck with your studies.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just something to think about,
>>>>>>>> --Jim--
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, February 14, 2014 4:31:37 PM UTC-6, Jean-Baptiste Gllpn
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm a Sociology PhD student. I recently found out about Neo4j and
>>>>>>>>> I'm excited about its possibilities.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to use Neo4j to manually build a database of a political
>>>>>>>>> elite in a country. I'd build that database as I read about the
>>>>>>>>> country,
>>>>>>>>> writing down new names as they come up and linking individuals as I
>>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>>> about their particular patterns of interaction.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To do that, I would need an interface that allows me to visualize
>>>>>>>>> and input data rapidly in the network, as well as search between
>>>>>>>>> various
>>>>>>>>> attributes of nodes. The basic admin dashboard in Neo4j doesn't allow
>>>>>>>>> me to
>>>>>>>>> do this quickly, as I can only search for node and relationship
>>>>>>>>> numbers,
>>>>>>>>> but not their attributes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let's say I create a node with the attribute "Name" as "Mr Jones",
>>>>>>>>> and he gets the node number 121. Later on I find details about where
>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>> worked or studied. I want to add these new attributes to the node,
>>>>>>>>> but it's
>>>>>>>>> hard for me to find the node since I can't search for "Mr Jones" -- I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to either know his node number by heart or to visualize the whole
>>>>>>>>> network
>>>>>>>>> to find him.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is there an interface / program that will allow me to interact
>>>>>>>>> easily with Neo4j as admin? I tried Neoeclipse, but for some reason
>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>> the relationships are loading, not the nodes, and I can't figure out
>>>>>>>>> how to
>>>>>>>>> load the nodes or whether Neoeclipse is the right choice at all (it
>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>> seem to be updated anymore?).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Many thanks in advance for your help!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste.
>>>>>>>>>
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