Hi Erik and Jean, +1 to you both. Sadly, judging by the deletion of the post that prompted my reply, I think our community is more willing to help Jean-Baptiste than he is willing to learn. There's that old saying about horses and water that seems to ring true here.
And congrats Erik on your can-do spirit. Good luck with your studies. --Jim-- On Thursday, February 20, 2014 2:18:16 PM UTC-6, Erik Hanson wrote: > > Jean-Baptiste, I recently did an MA project using neo4j (graphing > characters and elements of a video game), and I don't have much of a > background in programming (I got my BA in rhetoric and poetry). I started > my MA project using Neoclipse, but I found that even with a fairly small > graph, things got really slow very quickly. It turned out to be much > quicker to learn just enough Cypher to enter new nodes and relationships. I > encourage you to try it out—just experimenting with things in a > GraphGist<http://gist.neo4j.org/> may > be enough for you to learn the elements of Cypher that you need. I can't > claim that my own Cypher stuff was perfect or terribly pretty, but it was > straightforward and did just about what you are talking about. > > If you're willing to give it a shot, I'm willing to try to help walk you > through things. > > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:40:32 AM UTC-6, Jean Villedieu wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> @Jim : +1, a deep understanding of the underlying tech behind data is key. >> @Jean-Baptiste : you should reach out, I'm sure we can help. >> >> Thank you Michael for mentioning Linkurious ;) >> >> Jean >> >> On Sunday, February 16, 2014 10:40:25 PM UTC+1, Jim Salmons wrote: >>> >>> Jean-Baptiste, >>> >>> I absolutely do not intend to sound negative, but as a PhD student in >>> Sociology you will be in trouble in your career if you cannot distinguish >>> between a graph database query language and "development and coding" in >>> your mind. >>> >>> Michael gave you good advice about Linkurious, but that is not some >>> Magic Bullet. You won't just crank up an app/tool (whatever you want to >>> call it) and just do what you want in all cases. Sure, the obvious things >>> will be covered. But do you think that your investigation will be limited >>> only to what everybody else does? Probably not if you want to be known as a >>> smart person who can bring new and non-obvious insights into your work. >>> >>> A big part of your career will be looking at and manipulating data. As a >>> professional you will often have to provide the "glue" that gets your data >>> into, out of, and between whatever tools you have available. Whether it is >>> Cypher or some other means, you need to break your mental block that >>> says, "I don't do coding." Years from now you will be thanking yourself for >>> doing it sooner than later. >>> >>> Look, I'm 63 years-old and don't have to make the decisions you are >>> facing now. But I am also smart enough (make that, have decades of >>> experience to reflect on) to know that if I had it all to do over again and >>> I were in your shoes, I'd be digging into neo4j with a passion and there >>> would be nothing that could keep me from learning and growing my knowledge >>> of Cypher (along with other things of that ilk). >>> >>> There is a famous scene in the film, "The Graduate," where a graduation >>> party-goer leans over to Dustin Hoffman to give him career advice and >>> whispers, "Plastics!" That's what I'm trying to do for you, Jean-Baptiste, >>> "Cypher!" You do that, join this group, ask honest well-prepared questions >>> that will get helpful timely answers, and you will be well on your way to >>> carving a good niche (there's that social network stuff creeping in as >>> #graphsareeverywhere) for you in your career. >>> >>> Good luck with your studies. >>> >>> Just something to think about, >>> --Jim-- >>> >>> On Friday, February 14, 2014 4:31:37 PM UTC-6, Jean-Baptiste Gllpn wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I'm a Sociology PhD student. I recently found out about Neo4j and I'm >>>> excited about its possibilities. >>>> >>>> I'd like to use Neo4j to manually build a database of a political elite >>>> in a country. I'd build that database as I read about the country, writing >>>> down new names as they come up and linking individuals as I read about >>>> their particular patterns of interaction. >>>> >>>> To do that, I would need an interface that allows me to visualize and >>>> input data rapidly in the network, as well as search between various >>>> attributes of nodes. The basic admin dashboard in Neo4j doesn't allow me >>>> to >>>> do this quickly, as I can only search for node and relationship numbers, >>>> but not their attributes. >>>> >>>> Let's say I create a node with the attribute "Name" as "Mr Jones", and >>>> he gets the node number 121. Later on I find details about where he worked >>>> or studied. I want to add these new attributes to the node, but it's hard >>>> for me to find the node since I can't search for "Mr Jones" -- I need to >>>> either know his node number by heart or to visualize the whole network to >>>> find him. >>>> >>>> Is there an interface / program that will allow me to interact easily >>>> with Neo4j as admin? I tried Neoeclipse, but for some reason only the >>>> relationships are loading, not the nodes, and I can't figure out how to >>>> load the nodes or whether Neoeclipse is the right choice at all (it >>>> doesn't >>>> seem to be updated anymore?). >>>> >>>> Many thanks in advance for your help! >>>> >>>> Jean-Baptiste. >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Neo4j" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neo4j+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
