I'd like to read your article Jim.  Please let us know if you find it.

Cheers

Casey


On 21/02/2012, at 11:11 AM, Jim wrote:

> Hi Pete,
> 
> I can't really add anything specific regarding interface with a 3C, however I 
> have a good deal of experience with subs. First off is that a significant 
> benefit of the sub is to unburden the main speakers (and amp to a somewhat 
> lesser degree) of the reproduction of the lowest frequencies. This will 
> reduce the IMD (Inter Modulation Distortion) component and can really clean 
> up the sound. So use an outboard cross over to relieve the mains from this 
> load.
> 
>  A few other thoughts (in no particular order) are: the built in crossovers 
> in most subs are a pretty weak point. I ended up bypassing that part of my 
> Velodyne UDL 18 and it really helped. They tend to use a very simple, minimum 
> parts count circuit in this position. Next, you can really optimize the blend 
> of the sub with the mains (this can be difficult to end up with a "seamless" 
> transition) by adjusting not only the cross over point, but the steepness  of 
> slope on both sides and the relative gains.
> 
>  A simple way to set the sub gain without any test gear is to start with it 
> at zero, gradually have your helper bring it up while you sit in the "sweet 
> spot" till you just notice it; then turn it down a bit. That's likely a good 
> starting point. Try to find the specs on your mains and find where the low F 
> response starts to drop off; this will help you to establish the cross over 
> point.
> 
> I have an article I wrote on sub woofer integration a few years back; if I 
> can find it, I'd be glad to pass it on. However, I think it ended up archived 
> on a computer I can't get to right now. If you have any specific questions, 
> I'll be glad to try to answer them. Best of luck!
> 
> Regards, Jim
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/20/2012 1:33 PM, pete wrote:
>> quick question for the list...
>> 
>> i have a cheap-o active sub i'd like to integrate into my series IIIc here 
>> (just to get a basic idea of subsonic junk going on in mixes) and am 
>> wondering the best and or easiest way to go forward.
>> adding the sub in parallel with say the speaker A outs (on which there is a 
>> set of active Dynaudio bm6a) effectively lowering the input imp. seen by the 
>> master module i take it is not the way to go....
>> my initial thought is to take a line out of the 2-mix #3 in the patchbay and 
>> send that to the sub... i really wanted to be able to switch it out though 
>> when i am on the smaller avantone monitors on speaker select A.
>> 
>> any tips from people using subs on their older neotek setups?
>> 
>> thanks!!
>> 
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