I agree with these things, and I like the way last time we "ruined" each other's work. I found it quite shocking actually, when I spent ages carefully making a drawing then someone deliberately hacked it up. It took the preciousness out my work, which at the time was upsetting, but soon after I realised the new collaborative piece was often far more interesting and took on a new life. Richer in that others were part of it, and a privilege that they'd taken and used it. The shared energy and excitement creates much more than me sitting alone in a corner on a private creation.
dave On 15 March 2015 at 09:12, isabel brison <ijayes...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 15 March 2015 at 18:21, Randall Packer <rpac...@zakros.com> wrote: > >> @Michael >>>>> "It also characterises much of my experience of lists >> from about 2000 onwards… And to my dismay it doesn't seem to be >> happening here to anything like the extent I'd thought it might. And I >> wonder why.” >> >> So my conclusion here is that perhaps we need to propose new and evolving >> DIWO strategies if we really want to “do it with others” via email lists in >> the age of overload. >> >> > I'd say hustling for paid work may be the issue here more than information > overload, as that overload was already happening at the time of the last > DIWO on this list and that didn't seem to affect participation (though I > must admit to having passively spectated through that one but I was fairly > new on the list and still trying to get a feel for the conversation). > > That said, I'd still argue for no rules. Rules may be necessary in large > funded projects, as funding drives the need for results in our > productivity-obssessed age, but rules tend to bring hierarchical structure > with them. That goes against the best aspects of participatory work: > inclusiveness, the freedom to play when and if you want to, and the > openness and unpredictability of it all. Necessarily that means projects > may fail to deliver results, spin out of control or take unexpected turns, > but surely that's part of the fun of it? > > Also I think more than ever it's important to have spaces where we feel > free to remix, appropriate and play with other people's work. When artists > are being prosecuted left, right and center for things like doing a > painting based on someone else's photograph, just keeping that space open > is a political statement. And Netbehaviour has been doing a great job of > that :-) > > -- > http://isabelbrison.com > > http://tellthemachines.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >
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