Yes I can help if anyone is interested. Precedent-wise there's -
http://interaccess.org/event/2017/bitcoin-ethereum-and-conceptual-art Or my own - http://robmyers.org/art-coins-coloured/ But neither of these are *nothing*. :-) - Rob. On Sun, 15 Oct 2017, at 10:36 AM, Edward Picot wrote: > Great! - I'm not sure where you go with it after that, though. > > You could offer something non-existent for sale on OpenBazaar easily > enough. That would be one option. What appealed to me, though, was > the idea of selling shares in a non-existent work of art, in the hope > that the shares would keep changing hands and their value would keep > increasing, so that if you retained something like a 25% stake in the > work, that stake would keep increasing in value too.> > The paradox, of course, would be that by announcing that you were > creating a non-existent work of art, and offering shares in it, you > would in effect be creating an actual conceptual work of art about > the marketing and the market value of art. That's why I thought the > images from Curt Cloninger's essay about nothing would be appropriate > (for advertising the existence, or rather non-existence, of the work > and the availability of shares), because he's investigating the > paradox that you can't create a representation of nothing without > that representation being a something.> > I expect Rob could advise about how to set up the shares thing. > > Edward > > On 15/10/17 16:22, ruth catlow wrote: >> Not sure this is the best tool >> https://etherpad.net/p/MarlyStudiedTheQuotations >> >> but a place to start >> >> On 15/10/17 16:15, ruth catlow wrote: >>> I'd be up for thinking this one through. >>> Let's do it. >>> >>> On 13/10/17 20:34, Edward Picot wrote: >>>> Oops! Apologies for posting this twice. I thought the first one >>>> hadn't worked.>>>> >>>> On 13/10/17 19:10, Edward Picot wrote: >>>>> Can't we do something with this? Couldn't we create a conceptual >>>>> work of art that didn't actually exist at all - we could use some >>>>> ideas from Curt Cloninger's 'Essay About Nothing' to represent it >>>>> - and market shares in it via the Blockchain? Proceeds to >>>>> Furtherfield, unless the value went above a trillion dollars, in >>>>> which case I want a cut.>>>>> >>>>> Edward >>>>> >>>>> On 11/10/17 18:56, Rob Myers wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 11 Oct 2017, at 12:58 AM, ruth catlow wrote: >>>>>>> Perfectly put Helen! >>>>>>> Art reframed as a new asset class for fractional ownership ain't >>>>>>> my idea of utopia.>>>>>> >>>>>> """Marly studied the quotations. Pollock was down again. This, >>>>>> she supposed, was the aspect of art that she had the most >>>>>> difficulty understanding. Picard, if that was the man's name, was >>>>>> speaking with a broker in New York, arranging the purchase of a >>>>>> certain number of "points" of the work of a particular artist. A >>>>>> "point" might be defined in any number of ways, depending on the >>>>>> medium involved, but it was almost certain that Picard would >>>>>> never see the works he was purchasing. If the artist enjoyed >>>>>> sufficient status, the originals were very likely crated away in >>>>>> some vault, where no one saw them at all. Days or years later, >>>>>> Picard might pick up that same phone and order the broker to >>>>>> sell. 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