it means that immaterial / non-existent artworks by women artists are doubly invisible, since so much [visible/material] art by women is anyway invisible in the patriarchal art world ...
h : ) (emerging from an intense 4 days at the faces 20th anniversary in graz, where invisibility/under-representation of women's art & women artists was much discussed!) On 16.10.2017 15:11, Alan Sondheim wrote: > > Body Art was both male and female, Gina Pane, Collette, Marina > Abramovich, etc. but also Vito Acconci, Dennis Oppenheim, Genesis P. > Orridge, but also Hannah Wilke, etc. A pretty mixed group. Most of the > hard-core conceptualists were male, but there are also Adrian Piper, > the Guerilla Girls, Alice Aycock and Nancy Wilson Kitchel, Martha > Wilson, etc., who spanned conceptualism and physical/person production > as well. > > - Alan > > On Mon, 16 Oct 2017, Gretta Louw wrote: > >> It?s interesting to me that artists working with immaterial / >> non-existent >> artworks in the past are so overwhelmingly male, but I don?t know yet >> what it >> means?http://www.modernedition.com/art-articles/absence-in-art/the-invisible-artw >> >> ork.html Something perhaps about the other side of the body art coin >> perhaps? >> >> >> >> >> >> On 15. Oct 2017, at 17:15, ruth catlow >> <ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org> wrote: >> >> I'd be up for thinking this one through. >> Let's do it. >> >> On 13/10/17 20:34, Edward Picot wrote: >> Oops! Apologies for posting this twice. I thought the >> first one hadn't worked. >> >> On 13/10/17 19:10, Edward Picot wrote: >> Can't we do something with this? Couldn't we create >> a conceptual work of art that didn't actually exist >> at all - we could use some ideas from Curt >> Cloninger's 'Essay About Nothing' to represent it - >> and market shares in it via the Blockchain? Proceeds >> to Furtherfield, unless the value went above a >> trillion dollars, in which case I want a cut. >> >> Edward >> >> On 11/10/17 18:56, Rob Myers wrote: >> On Wed, 11 Oct 2017, at 12:58 AM, ruth catlow >> wrote: >> Perfectly put Helen! >> Art reframed as a new asset class for >> fractional ownership ain't my idea of utopia. >> >> >> """Marly studied the quotations. Pollock was down >> again. This, she supposed, was the aspect of art >> that she had the most difficulty understanding. >> Picard, if that was the man's name, was speaking >> with a broker in New York, arranging the purchase of >> a certain number of "points" of the work of a >> particular artist. A "point" might be defined in any >> number of ways, depending on the medium involved, >> but it was almost certain that Picard would never >> see the works he was purchasing. If the artist >> enjoyed sufficient status, the originals were very >> likely crated away in some vault, where no one saw >> them at all. Days or years later, Picard might pick >> up that same phone and order the broker to sell. """ >> >> - William Gibson, "Count Zero", 1986. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >> >> -- >> Co-founder Co-director >> Furtherfield >> >> www.furtherfield.org >> >> +44 (0) 77370 02879 >> >> Bitcoin Address 197BBaXa6M9PtHhhNTQkuHh1pVJA8RrJ2i >> >> Furtherfield is the UK's leading organisation for art shows, labs, & >> debates >> around critical questions in art and technology, since 1997 >> >> Furtherfield is a Not-for-Profit Company limited by Guarantee >> registered in England and Wales under the Company No.7005205. >> Registered business address: Ballard Newman, Apex House, Grand Arcade, >> Tally Ho Corner, London N12 0EH. >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >> >> >> > > New CD:- LIMIT: > http://www.publiceyesore.com/catalog.php?pg=3&pit=138 > email archive http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ > web http://www.alansondheim.org / cell 718-813-3285 > current text http://www.alansondheim.org/uw.txt > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > -- helen varley jamieson he...@creative-catalyst.com <mailto:he...@creative-catalyst.com> http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.upstage.org.nz
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