Dear Ian,
thanks for posting this. 

I do think there are some carefully choreographed theatrics involved in this 
depressing circus.
And there is a going to be quite a lot of calculation (possibly agreed by both 
the EU and the UK civil 
servants) that a dramatic last minute battle that goes down to the wire and 
from which both sides 
emerges and are seen to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat will play well 
with domestic constituencies 
and may (they calculate) help May get the parliamentary support she so 
deperately needs. It is this fact 
that makes it hard to disentangle the real battles and real news from the 
misinformation and 'phony wars’. 

But having said all that I am skeptical of the picture painted by JP of the 
brexit enterprise as some kind of strategic 
master plan. This attributes a level of strategic skill and competence that is 
glaringly absent from the moronic 
fantasists that populate this government (and much of the wider parliament). I 
am not averse to conspiracy 
theories but in this case I just don’t buy it.

But more seriously it lacks credibility because this ‘civil war’ has been years 
in the making. The fault lines in both 
the conservative party and Labor go back nearly half a century. They are 
generational and have 
deep historical and cultural roots (you can see it in the studied nostalgia of 
Johnson’s faux Churchillian strutting) and 
probably do not need to be re-heated on this list. So I think the enmity 
between the almost  religious fervor of the 
nativist Brexit true believers and the more straightforwardly neo-liberal 
Tories goes a long way back with many of the 
same character actors. 

So the divisions are not a theatrical smokescreen to distract us from the 
unfolding master plan of the brexit brain lords. 
They are  however destructively idiotic) quite real. Sometimes a cigar is.. you 
know.

This does not mean that special measures and emergency powers are not being 
planned as in the event 
of crashing out without a deal. A crash out with no transition period would 
bring chaos and disruption that would 
have to be managed and though this may be the desired outcome of some of the 
’true believers’ I do not think
that this is the aim of May and Olly Robins (the civil servant who probably 
cooked up Checkers). Robins and May 
knows (whatever she says) that no deal would be catastrophic. 
    
But to be honest Ian I am just like most of my benighted British brethren 
guessing and dancing on the edge of the 
precipice our fate in the hands of (for the most part) self serving narcissists 
on the road to no-where. Somehow this
tailspin feels even worse than JP’s grand conspiracy. 

Best

David 
    
On 16 Oct 2018, at 12:57, Iain Findlay-Walsh <iainfindlaywa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear David/all.
> 
> I have never posted here before (but long been a lurker!), however this 
> thread on Brexit presents an opportunity to share a recent twitter thread on 
> Brexit, which I came to indirectly via social media. As far as I am aware, 
> the author of the following twitter posts is a well-known whistle-blower, and 
> now author and film-maker. I don't know any of his work so am taking this 
> info at face value.
> 
> The reason I post the following is that, as an explanation/interpretation of 
> the UK gov's Brexit-related activities and statements, as played out via UK 
> news media, it is the only account I have read which comes close to 'ringing 
> true'. The narrative of the UK gov's 'incompetence' seems too politically 
> convenient to take at face value, and a united strategy of feigning division 
> and creating chaos as a smokescreen for power-grab stacks up much more 
> plausibly esp. in light of clear parallels along these lines in the US. What 
> I find to be strange is that the possibility of united and disingenuous UK 
> gov strategy and narrative has never been raised in the press, as far as I 
> have seen. As with many recent high profile political events in the UK 
> recently, perhaps the real concern is the role of a supportive and compliant 
> media across the board, in presenting what may be an entirely and knowingly 
> false narrative. 
> 
> I would be interested in anyone's thoughts on the twitter posts below, in 
> relation to David Garcia's previous comment and what has already been posted.
> 
> Here is the twitter commentary I am referring to - 
> 
> https://twitter.com/J_amesp/status/1046828583484821504?s=19
> @J_amesp
> 
> "Right, I really don't care whether people listen to this Brexit thread. It's 
> just here.
> 
> This is a sanitised briefing. It is rated as "high level of confidence" and 
> supported by OSINT, meaning it comes from multiple, reliable sources and is 
> supported by open source information.
> 
> Numerous sources have confirmed the British government is deliberately aiming 
> for a no deal Brexit outcome in order to take advantage of extended powers 
> available to them under the scenario - including civil contingencies and 
> so-called Henry VIII.
>  
> The Chequers plan is a ploy designed to engage the EU in distraction from the 
> desired British outcome and create a false narrative at home in the UK that 
> the EU are responsible.
> 
> Sources claim emergency legislation is being prepared for January next year 
> (2019) when the Withdrawal Act no deal deadlines pass - this would be 29/01 
> and the civil contingencies secretariat have been convened as per leaked 
> Hammond notes recently, adding credibility.
> 
> On Ireland: The British government hopes the EU will be forced to move first 
> and install a hard border in Ireland in order to avoid blame itself for a 
> situation it has created. Further sources claim the data harvested during 
> Repeal 8th will be used in some "unity" campaigns.
> 
> The British government has progressed trade talks with the US to the point of 
> potential emergency supply, moving substantially beyond informal discussions 
> - though the Trump administration should not be taken at its word, a degree 
> of reliance on this has been factored in UK side.
> 
> The government intends to create a tax haven on the EU's doorstep to exploit 
> financial service deregulation. This speaks for itself.
> 
> The British government aims to prevent France and other EU countries from 
> properly preparing for no deal by continuing to falsely engage in the 
> negotiations in bad faith, keeping the EU27 from moving from early stage 
> plans to contingency measures as long as possible.
> 
> The British government hopes this will create a ripple effect of impact so it 
> can later pursue a "Europe in chaos" narrative of disinformation and exploit 
> the situation. In short hoping to spread the load of no deal impact, 
> particularly into France due to geographical impact.
> 
> The British government hopes this collateral damage will add to planned 
> disruption around the EU election processes next spring and they will use 
> dissident relationships to further this - likely to include Orban.
> 
> The British are aware that contingency planning in France has not yet reached 
> operational unit level even in the GIGN because the general French 
> presumption is that the British government is genuinely engaged in good 
> faith, which they are not.
> 
> Ends."
> 
> Thanks,
> Iain Findlay-Walsh
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 9:24 AM David Garcia 
> <d.gar...@new-tactical-research.co.uk> wrote:
> The best lack all conviction, while the worst
> Are full of passionate intensity. 
> (W.B. Yates.. The Second Coming)
> 
> Its a critical juncture in a very very complex moment of a 4 dimensional 
> chess that the UK pretends to be playing with an opponent, but is 
> actually playing with itself (in every sense, including the vulgar sense of 
> wanking our time away).
> 
> Actually Kier Starmer -the Captain Sensible of the Brexit narrative- is 
> incrementally (and with some skill) inching the Labour Party’s leadership 
> towards a refferendum on the deal (I dislike the sterile populism of the 
> ‘people’s vote' tag but it seems to have caught on). 
> 
> In yesterday’s tragic parliamentary performance May stood isolated
> and friendless trapped by her own cack-handed trail of bad decisions
> and contradictory ‘red lines’. Apart from the isolation of someone whose only
> piece on the chess board is the king which is being relentlessly pushed 
> towards the innevitable one other thing stood out. Accross parliament MPs 
> from all paties except the DUP were increasingly advocating the once 
> unmentionable 
> concept of a 'referndum on the deal’ (or ratification). MPs who have not 
> taken that 
> position before such Dominic Reeve argued for it. This fas has moved from a 
> being a 
> very faint possibility to a distinct option as one of the only ways to 
> resolve political 
> paralysis.
> 
> This would be not so much a ‘people’s vote’ as the equivalent of the consent 
> form 
> the patient must sign before undergoing a highly risky piece of useless 
> cosmetic 
> surgery about to be perfomed of an ageing dowager suffering from severe 
> delusions of grandure. 
> 
> David Garcia      
> 
> 
> On 16 Oct 2018, at 07:35, Patrice Riemens <patr...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> 
> > On 2018-06-17 11:15, Patrice Riemens wrote:
> >> BonDi!
> >> In today's Guardian/Observer:
> >> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/17/europe-losing-interest-brexit-soap-it-has-bigger-worries
> >> Cheers, p+2D!
> > 
> > 
> > That was then - but even earlier there was:
> > 
> > https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/27/brexit-six-tests-eu-starmer-corbyn
> > 
> > (referd to in to-day's Guardian, hence ...)
> > 
> > I'm afraid that's going to be the scenario. A Labour party led by an 
> > Eurosceptic at heart too afraid to ruffle feathers f its brexiters voters 
> > (who mind well have changed their minds in the meantime), and going for the 
> > 'extend and pretend' scenario ...
> > 
> > Brexit gonna be a disaster - and not only for UK, even if far worse there.
> > 
> > Salvini appears to have backtracked on Riace deportations
> > 
> > Cheers, no cheers, I dunno
> > 
> > p+2D!
> 
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