On 24/03/2019 06:29, Joseph Rabie wrote: > I find it noteworthy that the call to burn at the stake, opposed by > Andreas, has been endorsed by male members of this list. Let us remember > that it was invented as retribution against women accused of witchcraft, > that is to say practises considered subversive by the male theocratic > power structure of the time. > > Burning at the stake was crude technology. The 20th century variant, > crematoria and gas chambers, were far more efficient. > > Language is never just language.
Indeed, and this is also rhetorical. Burning people wasn't 'invented' to deal with witchy women in recent times, but at least dates back to the earliest law code - Code of Hammurabi - that focused on punishment of the perpetrator, rather than sorting out the victim. Treason and property related issues were chief among the first written laws. It seems also as if it was/is a pretty universal method of castigation that is still widespread. In the Amazon, for instance, many communities have a sign at the entrance reading something to the effect of: "Ladrón cogido, Ladrón quemado!" Also, Bruno might feel left out if stakes were attributed to women-only punishment. At any rate, humanity is at a crossroads that this debate signifies well: For how long shall we play the docile, civilised subjects that speak nicely and accept things, then go vote every now and then to feel involved and part of 'change'? It is curious how 'civilised' - which means deprived of your autonomous subsistence and condemned to life as a wage slave bound in debt and taxes - is used as something to aspire to, like it was a value system worth preserving. Stockholm Syndrome. Appeasement. .. and other forms of freedom lost. # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: