Darren Reed wrote: > James Carlson wrote: >> Darren Reed wrote: >> >>> How many times have you seen people on the 'web clamour about "why >>> didn't they open source it if they're going to discontinue it?"? >>> >> >> Sun *DID* open source it -- well over four years ago. No more "open >> sourcing" is needed to get snoop out there. > > Where can I download snoop.tar.gz
Anyone who wants to can get the source using Mercurial from hg.opensolaris.org. Run tar and gzip. > to build and compile on Linux? Build on Linux? It's not gonna. It hasn't been ported. Someone will have to do that work, and it's certainly not trivial. > Or even just to get all of the current decoders, etc, for snoop on > Solaris 8, 9 or 10? Mercurial, qv. > While it might be "open source'd", because it is all CDDL'd, today it is > part of OpenSolaris. To do any work on it today is thus not attractive > for anyone outside of Sun. So it seems you're saying that the fact that nobody's tar'd up that one directory and tossed it on a web server is the reason that there's no vibrant external snoop development community. It's the one blocking issue. They can do all the complicated work of getting a DLPI-dependent program running on a non-DLPI system, but Mercurial is a mystery. Really. >> In other words, you've got the cart before the horse. If there is >> indeed someone out there who wants to take the snoop sources and run a >> new project on sourceforge with them, then more power to that person. >> Good luck with it. You (or anyone else; Sun employee or not) can do >> that right _now_ without waiting for any special approval or changes in >> ON. The source is free for the taking. Today. >> > > I don't believe that we need two projects maintaining a program called > "snoop". Furthermore, I can't see how anyone would be attracted to work > on something outside of opensolaris when the "official" one is at > opensolaris. I still think you've got the cart before the horse. Start that external community of wacky snoop believers first, and, if it happens, then shutting down the unnecessary one in ON becomes trivial. If nobody cares -- as it seems to be today -- then it'll never happen. >> ... >> You can't treat sourceforge (or any other such site) as a virtual India >> where out-of-date projects can be sent for death by maintenance. It >> won't work. > > How do you know that? > Has it been tried before? > > If it hasn't, isn't it worth trying out? > > As far as I can see, we've got everything to gain and nothing to lose by > trying it. No. Because it's silly. -- James Carlson 42.703N 71.076W <[email protected]> _______________________________________________ networking-discuss mailing list [email protected]
