I'm sorry Gavin but as one that just left a position as technical support 
for a medium sized ISP after almost 2 years, I can say that most of my 
customers are smart enough to not expect that mythical 56K speed. For the 
most part, we're aware that the speed is multidependent in that it comes 
close to the restrictions on DSL connects. Things like number of pairs in 
any given cable, the ambient temperature around those pairs and the 
possibility of noise from outside influences including the number of birds 
sitting on any given cable and how many of their toes are touching the 
wires. They would, however, like to achieve at least 33.6K or at least the 
average 40K connect speeds.

Also, you *nix guys that seem to have nothing but bad things to say about 
Windows are slowly realizing what some of us are finding out about *nix in a 
more pronounced way. Obviously these vendors, such as Diamond and others, 
that refuse to write drivers for *nix must know something that we don't. 
Somebody once commented about the plug 'n play capabilities of Windows. I'm 
finding that it's even less pronounced in *nix. So, quitcherbeleakin. Some 
of us don't really care how to make a watch. We just want to know what time 
it is. So, forget all these .config files we seem to have to manually edit 
with wonderful devices such as VI. [BLEAH!!] When you can make a version of 
this Linux, whether it be Red Hat or Mandrake, that's better at plug 'n play 
than Windows, maybe more of us will start using it on a more pronounced 
basis.

It's starting to sound like the OS/2 wars we used to get into years ago. 
Then, let's not forget about CP/M even a few more years ago that I owned 3 
different copies of that were totally incompatible with each other. Forget 
the competition. [Oh yeah, I'm leaving my position as technical support 
because of an acquisition and a merger. Not because of anything I did.]

----Original Message Follows----
On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, you wrote:
You'd be amazed at how many people connect at 49k and then we look at
there actual speed on the terminal server and its like 40k.  this used to be 
a big flaw in the old x2.  I think v.90 is the worst thing since windows.  
Anyone who doesnt connect at the impossible 56,000 thinks that there isp is 
messed up little do they know that their is many factors that play roles in 
your connect speed.

Regards,
    Gavin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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