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On Friday 19 July 2002 4:22 am, shane wrote:

> On Thursday 18 July 2002 6:50 pm, Tom Brinkman did speak unto the
> huddled
>
> masses, saying:
> >     Take any .gif file and just rename it as a .png, you'll get the
> > same image when you open it (or v'versa).  You can also take M$
> > .ico's and convert them to .gif's or call'em .png's.
>
> can you really?  then why are all the png images i make so damn big? 
> i tried to convert my site from jpg to png about 8 months ago, every
> image tripled, or more, in size!  maybe i am doing something
> wrong......

You're falling into a common error; the two are, algorithmically, chalk 
and cheese.

JPG is lossy compression. In other words, In The Beginning there was a 
'pure' image (even if only going down the wire to a scanner) which the 
JPEG algorithm deliberately slightly degraded to save disk space but 
preserve an acceptable image quality. Hence the slider on 'save as 
JPEG' which allows you to change the degree of compression from 0 - 
perfect reproduction - to 100 - infinite degradation.

PNG is lossless. Thus the image is 'pure' so has a bigger file size but 
'perfect' quality.

So converting JPG to PNG is gaining no value (doing the conversion will 
in crease the file size but won't undegrade the image) whereas PNG to 
JPG may be worthwhile.

PNG was developed by Compuserve because of the _last_ great image spat, 
namely Unisys claiming patents on GIF.

Alastair
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Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom)
http://www.unmetered.org.uk/
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