On Wednesday 12 February 2003 12:17 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 14:51, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> >    Now Lyvim, I believe you read the cooker list and should know this
> > was all hammered out, fuss'd about, reasons given, and concessions
> > made months ago on the cooker list.  If I'm terribly wrong, then
> > search the cooker archives back in Oct., Nov., Dec....
> >
> >    Tho many were vocal (as you are) about the changes, the logic and
> > reasons for it as given by the Mdk. developers were compelling if not
> > convincing, and much progress has been made with the new versions
> > since.
>
> I am somewhat new to the cooker list, and I just migrated to 9.1 beta.
> The difference is that now I've actually made the transition from
> "theory" to "practice" in my involvement with rpmdrake 2.x, and it isn't
> positive.  I just don't believe the 4-way interface is as good as
> rpmdrake 1.4.  Behind the scenes the "engine(s)" may be new and
> improved, but the interface just isn't getting it.  I don't understand
> *why* it was changed, and I have not talked to anybody that does.  It
> seems to me that this should have been a discussion/vote within
> Mandrakeclub prior to the time that the change was made.  I assumed that
> that was one of the reasons that Mandrakeclub existed.
>
> >    But what do I know, it's much easier and quicker to manage packages
> > on the CL anyhow ;~ppp
>
> I use rpm to install downloaded individual rpm's and rpmdrake to install
> from CD and update the OS from the net.  Usually I get the latter two
> items done pretty easily from the rpmdrake 1.4 UI.  But since I've been
> using LM91 Beta 3, I've developed a strong aversion to using rpmdrake.
>
> I used to could start rpmdrake 1.4 from an Eterm and then as I conducted
> actions in the UI, it would report back to Eterm exactly what it was
> doing, connecting to, unpacking, installing, etc, et al, ad infinitim.
> Very handy; very good UI experience; a good teamwork job between the CLI
> and the UI.  Now with 9.1 all that is history.
>
> >    BTW, in the recent discussions of updating 9.1b3 from mirrors, I
> > failed to mention there's a new tool 'urpmi.setup' available. A
> > little GUI tool for the CL challenged to use urpmi. 'Course I haven't
> > used it ;)    urpmi.setup-0.4.2-1mdk
>
> I *could* start using the CLI for this stuff, I've just been occupied
> with too many *other* things in the CLI to pay attention.  I don't spend
> all day playing with rpmdrake.  But when I do use it, I like for there
> to be a decent UI sitting there waiting.  With the advent of rpmdrake
> 2.1 it is now probably time to get a handle on the CLI procedures for
> urpmi, at least in the interim period that it takes for rpmdrake 1.4 to
> be voted back in.
>
> LX


Hmmm,

Y'know, I never really noticed the difference.  I just start DrakConf from the 
CL in an Eterm and go to software in the picture window, and I see in the 
Eterm what is going on no matter which of the four I choose.

Civileme


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