On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 21:52, Frankie wrote: > Hi Rikona, > > You are quiet right, for normal browsing you have (or should have) the right > to be "nobody". > but for any sort of shopping, you are hurting youself more then anyone else > by blocking any means to make sure you are who you say you are. >
> Thats a very basic example, but you can see how being able to get your IP, > referer and whatnot can make it much much harder for someone else to pretend > to be you. Its still possibly to spoof all that, but it is much more > complicated. > > If you shopping as "nobody", your very easy to copy aren't you??? But most of the time (and this is one of the reasons that I will not buy on line) they want a lot of information before you can even price check an item > > > > rgds > > Franki > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of rikona > Sent: Monday, 9 June 2003 12:13 PM > To: Frankie > Subject: Re[2]: [newbie] Privacy in linux? > > > Hello Frankie, > > Sunday, June 8, 2003, 7:08:01 PM, you wrote: > > F> privacy in browsering is cool.. > > And getting rarer with time. :-((( > > F> just keep in mind that you have no right to expect ecommerce apps to work > if > F> you make all authentication methods non functional... > > If I'm ordering something, I don't expect to be anonymous, of course, > but why do I have to be authenticated if I am just visiting a site? > > Why would you force me to accept a cookie from someone who is trying > to track my every move on the net? > > Why would I want to accept a script designed to snoop in my computer > as much as possible? > > If I have trouble with a site, I'll go to another one. One usually > gets a few in Google. :-) If EVERY site I find is disfunctional, I'll > buy it locally if I can. If not, I'll call their 800 number and read > the item from the screen. If at all possible, I will NOT deal with an > intrusive merchant! > > F> We have precious little authentication methods available to us now. > F> If people all start spoofing their details online then no-one can > F> expect this stuff to work anymore. > > Why not? Perhaps I am not understanding what you mean by > authentication. > > F> my point is turn it off when using online apps. > > It would seem as though that is where it is needed most. Am I missing > something? > > It seems as though the basis for placing ads is to track every move of > the user. A bit like someone following me around. I drive to a store, > they record the path I took to get there. When I get out of the car, > they follow me in the store. They record everything I look at in the > store, especially if I pick it up, and if I come back to look that > gets recorded too. If I buy something, the purchase is recorded. In > many cases the name, address, phone, email address are sent to the > advertiser to sell on some list for spammers. > > Now if someone was doing that physically, would you not object and > consider it an invasion of privacy? > > Please tell me why it is so hard to build an app that just lets me > visit and look around anonymously. > > -- > Thank you, > rikona mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Aron Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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