On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 07:51, ed tharp wrote:
> First please don't shoot me for posting this in more than one list.
> 
> I am seeing more and more post like this on newbie.
> 
> My patience with newbie is wearing somewhat thin too.  I find myself
> frequently just marking all messages as read without reading them
> because so many are OT of just personal conversations.
> 
> AND
> 
> 
> I'm sorry, but there is a limit as to how long any of us can tolerate
> deliberate bad manners.  You have wasted our time and bandwidth with
> arguing something that should have been simply accepted as a requirement
> of this list - a voluntary mutual help list.
> 
> I know I am as guilty as anyone.
> 
>  ?Maybe we on the OT list should  make an effort to not chase off so
> many folks that do not agree with our political views?
> 
> 
> or maybe just asking Haywire to return on his better behavior, or
> replying to Stephens Kuhn's and Haywire's posts here, and only with a
> note that teh reply is over here to save bandwidth? 


that 'here' is referring to the OT list at; mdw1982.dyndns.org

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> 
> I also have previously invited some other friends, that are in Spain,
> that were pretty helpful for the couple of weeks they could stand the
> newbie list, but they too were run off by the bandwidth waste (or signal
> to noise ratio) on Newbie. But you don't really hear about how many left
> because they could not deal with the volume. (kinda like how unhappy
> customers are less likely to complain than just go shop somewhere else) 
> 
> So.... any suggestions? 
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