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From: JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] Playing god with friends new laptop (Moral question)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:42:12 -0500

> 
> On Saturday 22 January 2005 09:38 am, Duncan Anderson wrote:
> > There should be no problem. The lady in question is a "computer newbie".
> > She will most likely want to use email and word-processing initially, so
> > there should be absolutely no issue, since all such programs are
> > standard on Mandrake at no extra charge.
> >
> > Most importantly, she will not have to bother with the time-wasting and
> > expensive activities which surround Windows in its capacity of virus
> > magnet. How any newbie copes with the whole vicious circle of infection,
> > re-installation, protection, updates, etc., defeats me.
> I agree here whole heartedly. I dont know how to teach her about updates, when
> to turn on and off autoprotect etc.
> >
> > I have installed Mandrake on several senior citizens' computers and
> > generally a bit of help is required every now and then, but it is
> > normally sorted out over the phone, or for a few minutes, accompanied by
> > a cup of tea and a chat.
> >
> > There is also no problem getting Mandrake to see wireless networks. We
> > don't have such luxuries where I live, but when I was in Europe on
> > holiday, I had no trouble connecting to the hotels' access points with
> > Mandrake 10.1beta2 (at the time, August last year). I was using an
> > Orinoco PCMCIA card. Unfortunately the ADSL infrastructure does not
> > exist yet in our beautiful seaside village. I believe it is due in 2006.
> >
> > cheers
> > Duncan
> <snip>
> 
> I think what I'll do is make her windows environment as linux-like as
> possiblel firefox, thunderbird and so forth. Then I'll install linux (she has
> plenty of disk space) and show her how easy it is. She will always have the
> choice - but she will surely find linux easier. I dread going near her laptop
> with windows on it and it's brand new! What a shame.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jarlath
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As far as wireless goes, it definitely depends on what sort of wireless nic you 
have. I have a Dell Inspiron with a Broadcom wireless card, and I came just 
sort of smashing it to bits out of utter and complete frustration trying to get 
that thing to connect under Mandrake 10.1. 8>| 
The Broadcom ethernet card on the other hand, was a snap to set up. I tried 
both "ndiswrapper" and Linuxants "driverloader" with the wireless.....no joy in 
Mudville at all.

I agree with your decisions to use as few MS programs as possible, and to set 
her up a dual-boot. Dual-booting is what I had to settle with, and now I can go 
wireless if need be, albeit with MS, and I can stick with my beloved Mandrake 
most of the time by plugging in to the internet.
My decision to buy this Dell, with it's linux un-friendly Broadcom wireless 
card, is just one of those little learning experiences that comes along once in 
a while. ;-)
"Too soon old and too late smart" comes to mind.

Best regards to you.
--Angus

"Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around 
in awareness." -- James Thurber

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