Since you took the time and trouble to "respond" for everyone's 
edification, I will respond to you [and, everyone, I'm lengthy but I hope 
others of you will find this interesting].  
    In the post that I responded to we were talking about microprocessors.  
Doesn't your computer use a microprocessor?  Assignment of the basic patent 
for the microprocessor effects everybody using a computer.  Since patent is 
done in secret, the outcome is only known when the final decision has been 
made, Intel, Motorola, and others have gone ahead in the mean time, and once 
the patent is assigned things must be sorted out.  If the guy in (was it 
Stanton, California?) got the patent, it raises many questions.   
    Part of what I have learned here on Newbie has been from tying into the 
expertise of others here regarding the background of computing that Linux 
developed in, sprang from, and exists in currently [haven't you learned 
something interesting here that wasn't strictly "my install didn't recognize 
my NIC" or how do I get this game to run?].  
    I began in computing by teaching myself WordStar and CP/M on an Osborne 
when the only Apple was an Apple II (and with an expansion board for $400 you 
could run run CP/M and have a good wordprocessor: WordStar).  Unix belonged 
to AT&T, and the FreeSoftwareFoundation didn't exist yet.  Several years 
later SCO Unix cost $2600 for a single 386 machine, and the FSF had the GNU C 
compiler but not enough other parts to make a working system.  Understand 
that things change.  I didn't pay enough attention, didn't have enough 
background, and wasn't able to appreciate some of the things that I was aware 
were going on.  EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS BUILT ON WHAT CAME BEFORE, and 
history does influence what we experience as Reality, both in computing and 
in the world at large.  I'm trying to make up for my lack of understanding; 
learn from this and don't make the same mistake that I did.  
    I asked if someone knew the outcome of the patent decision because I felt 
that someone here would know, newbie being a very informed and varied group, 
and that these related issues DO effect us all.  Maybe you need to spend a 
few hours playing the original ADVENTUR.  That might help you to appreciate 
some of the games available now and illustrate this process of building on 
the past.
    For those of you that don't know, ADVENTUR was a game designed to play at 
a terminal with slow access to the main computer (300 baud modems if I 
remember right).  It was developed at a time when there was no graphics, no 
sound, no mouse, etc.  Yet it maintains your interest.  It uses your 
imagination -- similar to the pre-TV days of radio drama.  The radio program 
of Orson Wells "The War of the Worlds" LITERALLY had people committing 
suicide!  Convincing?  Involvement?  That program's impact is still around 
today.  I missed the days of Radio, but I see the effects.  Have you noticed 
any of what I'm talking about?  
    ADVENTUR was good enough to be ported from where it was originally 
developed (a PDP11 mainframe?) to CP/M, MSDOS and Windows.  It established 
the category of adventure games.  Since it was strictly text, it should work 
on DOSEMU, WINE or other emulators under Linux.   You might want to spend a 
few hours to see if you can actually find and get into the entrance of the 
game, and what the foundation of today's games actually is.  You can still 
experience your own history for yourself.  You might even find it a little 
interesting.  If nothing else you'll have an appreciation for the quote 
below, and a few other references you'll see from time to time.
    "You are standing at the end of a road...." as ADVENTUR began, and the 
rest is up to you.
-Gary-

In a message dated 8/2/2000 1:31:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 > [since I received only 35 Newbie on the 25th, none on the 26th & 27th I'm
 > reposting this.  If there was an answer I would appreciate it if someone
 > would forward it to me.  I had thought that the Newbie server might be 
down,
 > but since I have only a few (rather than scads) messages from Newbie today
 > I'm assuming that I just didn't get my mail for some reason.]
 >
 >     Apple has always used Motorola.  But I never heard the final 
disposition
 > of the copyright issue for the microprocessor chip itself.  Last I heard 
some
 > guy in a garage was going to be granted the basic patent for the
 > microprocessor.  What became of this?  -Gary-
 >
 > In a message dated 7/23/2000 11:54:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > writes:
 >
 > <<
 >  Didn't Intel originally own the patent rights for some of the early
 >  chips that Apple and other companies were using?
 >
 >  Roman
 >   >>
 
 this has nothing to do with linux or mandrake .......this is not the forum to
 discuss this. if you are interested go to the motorola forum and ask there
 .........zyeeeeezzzz . THIS IS A LINUX FORUM!!!!!!! AND MAILING LIST
  >>

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