Just curious, how many of y'all:

 * are programmer folk
 * are IT folk
 * are plain user folk

Don't get me wrong, I really like Linux and hope it flourishes.  And I'm not
saying that Linux sucks in any way!

But I'm just wondering because, without getting into a flame war, I'm
surprised how bad the installation of Mandrake is. I got Mandrake because it
was supposed to be the most friendly distribution to install and no doubt
it's better than RedHat or Debian and for all intents and purpose it's a
good installation process.  But some of the questions the installer would
ask were just confounding to a new user and the method that you select
packages were a bit disconcerting.  I know that Linux is not for the timid,
but there seem to be just little things that could be changed to faciliate
the whole "experience."  I doubt a first time Linux user would click on
Expert, the "psychology" of Linux seems a little wacked but I guess it's not
an OS that's intended for the general population.

Let me reiterate: Don't get me wrong, I really like Linux and hope it
flourishes.  And I'm not saying that Linux sucks in any way!


-----Original Message-----
From: patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake...too many apps?


On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> Have you tried doing an expert install and selecting the applications
> yourself ? That way, you know exctly what you have installed on your
> system.
> 
> cheers,
> philomena

yea, theres about a thousand of em. have fun :)

> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > One of the few things I don't care for with Mandrake is the large number
> > of apps it installs by default that are of little use to me. Couple this
> > the seeming all or nothing selection process and
> > the lack of documnetation (that I can find) on exactly what is included
> > in the Misc category or not installed with the available
> > percentage of options and I always wind up with a very cluttered menu
> > stucture. I was wondering if the boxed set includes any more app
> > selection information...if so it would certinly be worth the price to
> > me.
> > --
> > Paul Bary
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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