It was Sat, 30 Jun 2001 02:22:16 -0400 when Fireman71 wrote: >Moved my desk and plugged my computer back in and tried to connect to the >internet with "/sbin/ifup ppp0" as root like i have always done and the >modem picked up the phone line and dialed the number then almost before the >first ring it hung up and linux responded with a somewhat cryptic "Failed to >connect (error 17)". Perhaps a far out thought: is the power plug that you use now, grounded in the same way as the one you used before that move? I have seen strange problems like this happen because of grounding problems. Paul -- "I prefer rogues to imbeciles, because they sometimes take a rest." -Alexandre Dumas (fils) http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.4.99 ** http://www.care2.com - when you care **