if (as root in a console or xterm) you type (without the quotes) "man pppd" it will explain that error 17 means "the ppp negotiation failed because serial loopback was detected" so I would connect the modem back up to the same serial port it was before, if it is external. if it was internal., I would take it out of the slot and reseat it and see if that makes any difference. keep us informed ok? On Saturday 30 June 2001 02:22, Fireman71 wrote: > I rearranged my home office today to please my better half who is always > complaining about it being cluttered and saying things like "This room > would look so much better if only......" > > This reordering involved moving my LM8.0 computer. > > I did a shutdown -h now as root from an xterm and everything shutdown fine. > > Moved my desk and plugged my computer back in and tried to connect to the > internet with "/sbin/ifup ppp0" as root like i have always done and the > modem picked up the phone line and dialed the number then almost before the > first ring it hung up and linux responded with a somewhat cryptic "Failed > to connect (error 17)". > > > I cant find anything that describes exactly what error 17 is supposed to > mean but all the settings have stayed exactly the same. I just shutdown the > computer and moved it about 2.5 feet then plugged the power cable back up > and turned the power on. > > Then only two cables i had to disconnect were the monitor and the power > cable. Never touched the phone line. > > Also i can boot the workstation up into winblows and the modem works just > fine. > > My hardware: > > HP Vectra 5 P120 > External USR 56k modem > Mandrkae 8.0 > (dont think the rest is really relevant to this problem) > > This one has me really puzzled. > > Thanks in advance, > Ian K. Harrell > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]