Here's the thing....The modem, which is external, was never disconnected so i could not have inadvertantly connected it to the wrong serial port. Right before doing the shutdown command i had been online (checking email). I did "/sbin/ifdown ppp0" and waited for the connection to drop and then did "shutdown -h now". Then disconnected the monitor and its power cable and set it in the floor and disconnected the power cable from the back of the computer. I then moved the desk with the computer, modem, keyboard, mouse and speakers as one unit to its new location. I rerouted the cabling or the surge protector and plugged the computer back into the same outlet it had been in before and then sat the monitor back on the desk and hooked the cables up for it. I have tried making a new dialup connection with the same results. The modem picks up the line, dials then waits about 3 seconds and hangs up. I made the original connection and the new connection both with netconf. The new connection was setup the exact same way that I set up the old one when it was working. I have made sure that both the connections for the serial cable to the modem are secure and that they are screwed in so that there is no chance of them being lose or anything. I have also reseated the phone lines. The only changes i have made to the system in the past month or so is to configure Bastille with the interactive option but that was about 2 weeks ago and i have been connecting to the internet fine since then up until the computer was moved so this shouldnt be the root of the problem. Thanks for all the responses by the way. :) Still trying to resolve this one, Ian K. Harrell EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of etharp Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 8:02 AM To: Fireman71; Newbie Mailing List Mandrake Subject: Re: [newbie] problem with /sbin/ifup ppp0, modem dials then hangs up (error 17) if (as root in a console or xterm) you type (without the quotes) "man pppd" it will explain that error 17 means "the ppp negotiation failed because serial loopback was detected" so I would connect the modem back up to the same serial port it was before, if it is external. if it was internal., I would take it out of the slot and reseat it and see if that makes any difference. keep us informed ok? On Saturday 30 June 2001 02:22, Fireman71 wrote: > I rearranged my home office today to please my better half who is always > complaining about it being cluttered and saying things like "This room > would look so much better if only......" > > This reordering involved moving my LM8.0 computer. > > I did a shutdown -h now as root from an xterm and everything shutdown fine. > > Moved my desk and plugged my computer back in and tried to connect to the > internet with "/sbin/ifup ppp0" as root like i have always done and the > modem picked up the phone line and dialed the number then almost before the > first ring it hung up and linux responded with a somewhat cryptic "Failed > to connect (error 17)". > > > I cant find anything that describes exactly what error 17 is supposed to > mean but all the settings have stayed exactly the same. I just shutdown the > computer and moved it about 2.5 feet then plugged the power cable back up > and turned the power on. > > Then only two cables i had to disconnect were the monitor and the power > cable. Never touched the phone line. > > Also i can boot the workstation up into winblows and the modem works just > fine. > > My hardware: > > HP Vectra 5 P120 > External USR 56k modem > Mandrkae 8.0 > (dont think the rest is really relevant to this problem) > > This one has me really puzzled. > > Thanks in advance, > Ian K. Harrell > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
