On Monday 29 October 2001 07:00 am, you wrote:

You can do whatever you want, but I won't visit your site. I find
pop-up Windows abhorantly annoying. This is one of the reasons
I stopped visiting Geocities sites. 

Also, I think you're blowing this way out of proportion. As a
webdesigner, I can tell you that it only takes a little effort to
support a number of browsers with the same HTML code. 
I'd submit people that don't bother to do this are lazy. 
My old homepage was tested with many different 
types of browsers including IE, Netscape, Opera, 
Mossiac, Lynx, and some sort of Russian browser 
which name escapes me at the moment. And yes, I 
downloaded them all. 

It's already been brought up ad nausium that MSIE does 
support HTML 4.x, and the use of their proprietary tags is
optional. The MSN webmaster was clearly full of crap. Just
accept this for what it is. In a sense, you're no better than 
they are by stretching the truth. 

As for the security risks regarding MSIE, I could easily
write a Javascript program that does some pretty mallicious
stuff. You hear more about VBScript viri because of the
volume of computers that support it. 

> Further to our conversation on this list about msn.com..
>
> I have created what I think should be Linux and open sources
> retailation for Microsofts attempt to force the use of their "non
> standards compliant" browser.
>
> This is what I have so far.
>
>
> Here is the code that goes in your main site..
> ##########################################################
> <html><head><title>Non Compliant browser!!!</title>
> <SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript">
> <!--
> var browserName = navigator.appName
> if (browserName == "Microsoft Internet Explorer")
> {
> PoPuP = window.open("http://mydomain.com/non-compliance.html";,
> "PoPuP",
> "scrollbars=yes,toolbar=no,statusbar=no,width=450,height=200,resiza
>ble=yes") ;
> }
> </SCRIPT>
> </head>
> <body>
> </body>
> ###########################################################
> Nothing terribly fancy about that, pretty standard code.
>
> and here is the page it opens:
> ###########################################################
>
> <html>
> <head><title>WARNING! Non Standards Compliant Browser Detected.
> Possible Security Risk.</title></head>
>
> <body>
> <h4>You are using: Microsoft Internet Explorer to view this
> site.</h4> Because Microsoft do not always support open standards,
> and they appear to change their level of support constantly,  we
> cannot guarantee that you will receive our site in the manner and
> with the functionality with which it was intended.<br>
>
> Also, many security flaws have been found in "Internet Explorer"
> that could put your computer and your personal infomation at risk.
>
> We suggest you download Mozilla (Free) at <a href
> ="http://mozilla.org"; target="new">
> http://mozilla.org</a> and show your support free software around
> the world. Mozilla was created and is maintained and advanced by
> open source programmers around the world. It is a fast, secure and
> most importantly, standards compliant browser.
> <br>
> This is not necessary you may have full functionality, we just
> can't guarantee it, and neither can anyone else other then
> Microsoft and its partners.
> </body>
> </html>
> ############################################################
>
> This opens a small featureless browser window of 450x200 pixels
> that contains the above html,, I would like to hear anyones
> comments on this.
>
>
>
> rgds
>
> Frank

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design a building, write a sonnet, balance 
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dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act 
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pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty 
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