Bill,

Organizational hierarchies are interesting and useful, but they're a
bit outside what we normally map in OSM.

There are other organizational hierarchies one might consider, such as
government facilities, town, county, state, federal government
facilities, or corporations which have subsidiaries, etc.

That's very valuable information, but you can't really observe it on the ground.

There are places where such information would be of great value, such
as Wikipedia or Wikidata.

- Serge


On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Bill & Kathy Patterson
<bill_patter...@tricolour.queensu.ca> wrote:
> Actually I wasn't thinking of mapping the boundaries.  Rather I meant my
> query to relate to the detail assigned while mapping specific church
> buildings.  The denomination is already a tag (if I have my parlance
> correct), but would it be reasonable to also specify within which deanery
> and diocese (or which presbytery and synod) a church lies?  If so, should
> this be done as a tag or as a relation? And although the denomination is
> already in the information, does it add anything to specify the governing
> body such as the Presbyterian Church in Canada vs. the Church of Scotland or
> the Presbyterian Church in the United States.  And then there are the
> baptists, with the American Baptist churches, the Southern Baptist
> Convention, the General Baptist Ministries, the Fellowship of Evangelical
> Baptists, and goodness knows how many other groups.  Somehow the tag
> "Baptist" seems inadequate.
>
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> To: Bill & Kathy Patterson <bill_patter...@tricolour.queensu.ca>; Help for
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> I haven't seen any; what type of objects are you looking at mapping?
> You could map the boundaries of the administrative areas, although I
> don't think this is done.  For example, for my area and my
> denomination (Anglican), if I search on the front page map for the
> government county "Cambridgeshire", I get the county boundary, as a
> relation containing several ways, but if I search for "Diocese of Ely"
> I don't get anything.  But if you have the boundaries of the
> lowest-level units (e.g. parishes) you could map those, and then build
> deaneries and dioceses on top of those.
>
> __John
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Bill & Kathy Patterson
> <bill_patter...@tricolour.queensu.ca> wrote:
>> Are there any recommendations for reporting church hierarchies in OSM?
>> For
>> example, in the Presbyterian Church in Canada, and the United Church of
>> Canada, congregations are members of presbyteries, and presbyteries
>> members
>> of synods, a bottom-up structure.  In the Anglican and Roman Catholic
>> churches I know that the diocese is part of their top-down structure.
>>
>> Should these be tags, relations, or ignored?
>
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