This is an outstanding example of why the hierarchy shouldn't be mapped in the main database. If it's important to the churches in question, it's their business.
-- John Awkwardly thumbed in on a phone. > On Apr 25, 2015, at 10:18 AM, "John F. Eldredge" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Note that Baptists are less hierarchical than some other denominations. A > given congregation may or may not be associated with local, state, and > national associations, in any combination, and membership in a local > association, for example, doesn't confer state or national membership. Among > Southern Baptists, the state and national associations are commonly referred > to as Conventions. > > >> On April 24, 2015 4:59:01 PM CDT, Bill & Kathy Patterson >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> Actually I wasn't thinking of mapping the boundaries. Rather I meant my >> query to relate to the detail assigned while mapping specific church >> buildings. The denomination is already a tag (if I have my parlance >> correct), but would it be reasonable to also specify within which deanery >> and diocese (or which presbytery and synod) a church lies? If so, should >> this be done as a tag or as a relation? And although the denomination is >> already in the information, does it add anything to specify the governing >> body such as the Presbyterian Church in Canada vs. the Church of Scotland or >> the Presbyterian Church in the United States. And then there are the >> baptists, with the American Baptist churches, the Southern Baptist >> Convention, the General Baptist Ministries, the Fellowship of Evangelical >> Baptists, and goodness knows how many other groups. Somehow the tag >> "Baptist" seems inadequate. >> >> From: John Sturdy <[email protected]> >> To: Bill & Kathy Patterson <[email protected]>; Help for >> newbie mappers <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 8:08 AM >> Subject: Re: [OSM-newbies] Church hierarchy >> >> I haven't seen any; what type of objects are you looking at mapping? >> You could map the boundaries of the administrative areas, although I >> don't think this is done. For example, for my area and my >> denomination (Anglican), if I search on the front page map for the >> government county "Cambridgeshire", I get the county boundary, as a >> relation containing several ways, but if I search for "Diocese of Ely" >> I don't get anything. But if you have the boundaries of the >> lowest-level units (e.g. parishes) you could map those, and then build >> deaneries and dioceses on top of those. >> >> __John >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Bill & Kathy Patterson >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Are there any recommendations for reporting church hierarchies in OSM? For >> > example, in the Presbyterian Church in Canada, and the United Church of >> > Canada, congregations are members of presbyteries, and presbyteries members >> > of synods, a bottom-up structure. In the Anglican and Roman Catholic >> > churches I know that the diocese is part of their top-down structure. >> > >> > Should these be tags, relations, or ignored? >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > newbies mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/newbies >> >> > >> >> >> >> newbies mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/newbies > > -- > John F. Eldredge -- [email protected] > "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot > drive out hate; only love can do that." -- Martin Luther King, Jr.
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