Thanks to everyone for your input. It certainly sounds like the consensus is
to leave the can of worms unopened. I'm good with that.
Bill
From: Jim Mays <[email protected]>
To: Help for newbie mappers <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [OSM-newbies] Church hierarchy
Perhaps best to follow USGS format & simply mark their existence with either a
star, a crescent or a cross, or other symbols as appropriate.
JimM
On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 1:47 PM, John Deters <[email protected]> wrote:
This is an outstanding example of why the hierarchy shouldn't be mapped in the
main database. If it's important to the churches in question, it's their
business.
--JohnAwkwardly thumbed in on a phone.
On Apr 25, 2015, at 10:18 AM, "John F. Eldredge" <[email protected]> wrote:
Note that Baptists are less hierarchical than some other denominations. A given
congregation may or may not be associated with local, state, and national
associations, in any combination, and membership in a local association, for
example, doesn't confer state or national membership. Among Southern Baptists,
the state and national associations are commonly referred to as Conventions.
On April 24, 2015 4:59:01 PM CDT, Bill & Kathy Patterson
<[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I wasn't thinking of mapping the boundaries. Rather I meant my query
to relate to the detail assigned while mapping specific church buildings. The
denomination is already a tag (if I have my parlance correct), but would it be
reasonable to also specify within which deanery and diocese (or which
presbytery and synod) a church lies? If so, should this be done as a tag or as
a relation? And although the denomination is already in the information, does
it add anything to specify the governing body such as the Presbyterian Church
in Canada vs. the Church of Scotland or the Presbyterian Church in the United
States. And then there are the baptists, with the American Baptist churches,
the Southern BaptistConvention, the General Baptist Ministries, the Fellowship
of Evangelical Baptists, and goodness knows how many other groups. Somehow the
tag "Baptist" seems inadequate.
From: John Sturdy<[email protected]>
To: Bill & Kathy Patterson <[email protected]>; Help for
newbie mappers <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: [OSM-newbies] Church hierarchy
I haven't seen any; what type of objects are you looking at mapping?
You could map the boundaries of the administrative areas, although I
don't think this is done. For example, for my area and my
denomination (Anglican), if I search on the front page map for the
government county "Cambridgeshire", I get the county boundary, as a
relation containing several ways, but if I search for "Diocese of Ely"
I don't get anything. But if you have the boundaries of the
lowest-level units (e.g. parishes) you could map those, and then build
deaneries and dioceses on top of those.
__John
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Bill & Kathy Patterson
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Are there any recommendations for reporting church hierarchies in OSM? For
> example, in the Presbyterian Church in Canada, and the United Church of
> Canada,congregations are members of presbyteries, and presbyteries members
> of synods, a bottom-up structure. In the Anglican and Roman Catholic
> churches I know that the diocese is part of their top-down structure.
>
> Should these be tags, relations, or ignored?
>
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