Thanks to everyone for your input. It certainly sounds like the consensus is to leave the can of worms unopened. I'm good with that. Bill From: Jim Mays <jmay...@gmail.com> To: Help for newbie mappers <newbies@openstreetmap.org> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-newbies] Church hierarchy Perhaps best to follow USGS format & simply mark their existence with either a star, a crescent or a cross, or other symbols as appropriate. JimM
On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 1:47 PM, John Deters <jadet...@comcast.net> wrote: This is an outstanding example of why the hierarchy shouldn't be mapped in the main database. If it's important to the churches in question, it's their business. --JohnAwkwardly thumbed in on a phone. On Apr 25, 2015, at 10:18 AM, "John F. Eldredge" <j...@jfeldredge.com> wrote: Note that Baptists are less hierarchical than some other denominations. A given congregation may or may not be associated with local, state, and national associations, in any combination, and membership in a local association, for example, doesn't confer state or national membership. Among Southern Baptists, the state and national associations are commonly referred to as Conventions. On April 24, 2015 4:59:01 PM CDT, Bill & Kathy Patterson <bill_patter...@tricolour.queensu.ca> wrote: Actually I wasn't thinking of mapping the boundaries. Rather I meant my query to relate to the detail assigned while mapping specific church buildings. The denomination is already a tag (if I have my parlance correct), but would it be reasonable to also specify within which deanery and diocese (or which presbytery and synod) a church lies? If so, should this be done as a tag or as a relation? And although the denomination is already in the information, does it add anything to specify the governing body such as the Presbyterian Church in Canada vs. the Church of Scotland or the Presbyterian Church in the United States. And then there are the baptists, with the American Baptist churches, the Southern BaptistConvention, the General Baptist Ministries, the Fellowship of Evangelical Baptists, and goodness knows how many other groups. Somehow the tag "Baptist" seems inadequate. From: John Sturdy<jcg.stu...@gmail.com> To: Bill & Kathy Patterson <bill_patter...@tricolour.queensu.ca>; Help for newbie mappers <newbies@openstreetmap.org> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-newbies] Church hierarchy I haven't seen any; what type of objects are you looking at mapping? You could map the boundaries of the administrative areas, although I don't think this is done. For example, for my area and my denomination (Anglican), if I search on the front page map for the government county "Cambridgeshire", I get the county boundary, as a relation containing several ways, but if I search for "Diocese of Ely" I don't get anything. But if you have the boundaries of the lowest-level units (e.g. parishes) you could map those, and then build deaneries and dioceses on top of those. __John On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Bill & Kathy Patterson <bill_patter...@tricolour.queensu.ca> wrote: > Are there any recommendations for reporting church hierarchies in OSM? For > example, in the Presbyterian Church in Canada, and the United Church of > Canada,congregations are members of presbyteries, and presbyteries members > of synods, a bottom-up structure. In the Anglican and Roman Catholic > churches I know that the diocese is part of their top-down structure. > > Should these be tags, relations, or ignored? > > _______________________________________________ > newbies mailing list > newbies@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/newbies > newbies mailing list newbies@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/newbies -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." -- Martin Luther King, Jr. _______________________________________________ newbies mailing list newbies@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/newbies -- Jim Mays 845-657-2013 _______________________________________________ newbies mailing list newbies@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/newbies
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