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[13] Aussie coach on Bossie
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by tb:
"Ferguson obviously has a problem with Mark and it's best for him to get a change of
scene sooner rather than later," Farina told the Sydney Daily Telegraph.
"If he's not playing regularly for his club it makes it difficult when it comes to
being selected for Australia.
"I spoke to Mark about the situation several weeks ago and I'm sure he'll make the
right decision."
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[12] Palermo deadline
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by tb:
Apparently we have until Jan 10th to sign Palermo. The Rent Boys and the East end
types are also supposed to be interested.
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[11] Fergie on Peter's Gong
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by tb:
"It's terrific for him and is reflection on his great career.
"He was tremendous value to this club when he was here. He had an immense presence.
"Defenders also had to get used to the verbal volleying he would give them from time
to time, but he only did that because his heart was in it and he was always an
absolute winner.
"His record was marvellous. During his time here he never finished lower than second
in the league and his international career was incredible.
"He was won something like 102 caps and winning the European Championship with Denmark
was a tremendous achievement when everybody thought they had only gone along there for
the trip.
"He's had an amazing career and I am very proud of him and very pleased for him and
his family."
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[10] Peter on MBE
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by tb:
"The achievements of Manchester United were truly magnificent and it was great to be
part of it.
"But until an award of this nature is made, it is hard to understand how significant
the achievements were and perhaps how significant your own individual part within it
was.
"I always enjoyed my time in England and always considered it to be my second home.
"To achieve the MBE only serves to consolidate those close ties, ties which I hope
will continue throughout my life."
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[9] Yonner has too much sherry
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by tb:
Shurely, as Sam Allardyce says that he will build an empire like Fergie after 10
years.
Nurse! the screens.
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[8] Schmikes gets an MBE - more later
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by redend:
Schmikes has been awarded an honorary MBE - more later
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[7] Some new lies about standing
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by redend:
To counter the propaganda and falsehoods being put about by the opposition (to
standing) here are some that RED NEWS thought of (maybe "thought of" is pushing it a
bit):
1. Standing is cool - sitting down is for piles.
2. Not only is it cool - standing is also hard. It takes about a year for a baby to
master it. After that, seating is shunned for safety reasons.
3. Standing is not only safe - its so good it will find a cure for cancer and solve
world poverty.
4. It also looks after small fluffy animals that are ill - would you vote for a
politician who tried to stop that?
5. Letting rip in a football ground after a Friday night out on the ale - it's a
traditional pastime. Plastic seats have taken the entertainment out of it as the
culprit is now all too easily identified due to the audible warning signal amplified
by the adjacent polycarbonate surface. At which point SPS arrive.
6. Standing makes a man's genitals extend measurably. This is actually true but
unfortunately the effect is only temporary unless, like me, you tie a house brick to
it and wait for the wind to change.
7. Can't be bothered to think of any more now ... send us your entries to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or post them in the forum (RedTalk > Forum).
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[6] Gregory issues an apology
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by redend:
So shotgun finally turns his weapon on himself. (A neat party trick if you can do this
but apparently it takes years of yoga practice to avoid putting your back out).
ASTON VILLA manager John Gregory has issued a public apology to Doug Ellis after
making derogatory comments about his chairman in the media.
The two met on Friday after Gregory suggested that Ellis was "stuck in a time-warp",
which, along with other comments, angered the Villa Park supremo.
After a humiliating climbdown Gregory left with his tail between his legs (which
brings us back to the first paragraph?).
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[5] Standing - some rambling thoughts
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by redend:
Just a few observations relating to the standing bandwagon (which is actually being
pushed rapidly down the hill at the moment - flattening anyone who gets in its way).
We will win this one.
Some ammunition / ideas:
1. Justice Taylor - in his report on Hillsborough etc - never said that standing on
terraces was inherently dangerous and should therefore be completely replaced by all
seaters. This is conveniently forgotten or misquoted at every opportunity.
2. He also said that prices should not rise significantly to push them out of reach of
poorer supporters. Hmm - they took notice of that one didn't they?
3. Any return to standing in the Premier League would not be on massive old style
terraces. It would be limited areas - using state of the art technology (concrete
steps?) and under proper control of stewards etc (i.e. not the SPS)
4. It is about CHOICE. When we get safe standing - no-one will be forced to stand in
these areas. No-one should be forced to sit either - like they are now. Whatever
happened to consumer choice? Get the marketing men back in here now and remind them
what they learnt in class - "The customer is always right". In fact - it is likely
that the area covered by seating will be larger than standing by 10 to 1 at all
grounds (obviously more people can fit in the same space standing).
5. Many of the people behind Premier League, FA etc (the opposition) have made
astronomical profits over the last decade. Even to the extent of top people in these
organisations (and some closer to home) being major shareholders in companies that
manufacture seats for football grounds! No conflict of interest there then!
6. The opposition have a hidden agenda. Well disgusied at least. They use safety anf
the deaths of people at Hillsborough as their argument but the truth is - and we're
going to shock you here - its about how much money they can make. Some spokespeople
have come close to admitting it recently - they don't want a certain profile of
supporter in the ground. They want rich fans who spend lots of money, eat their prawn
sandwiches and don't complain.
7. Standing in seated areas happens all the time - especially when a goal is scored.
From personal experience I don't know anyone who injured themselves seriously on a
terrace - but I know four who've done so falling off/over/under/through seats. And
I've only counted Jonah once.
8. It'll get the people who want to stand out of the way of the people who don't.
Since the choice to stand was taken away there've been arguments and worse at every
match. It's not necessary.
9. Standing does affect atmosphere - a lot. Just by standing up it doesn't make you
sing - and there are plenty you see standing and goldfish style mouthing the words
etc. It does create the right environment though - and people can stand with their
mates if they didn't get tickets all together. That is the biggest factor - mobility.
10. Its cheaper. Standing provides an affordable solution - and it doesn't have to
dent profits of the PLC's - in fact the reverse has happened in Germany. Prices are
still spiralling up. This is part of the general policy in football of "socio-economic
cleansing" which is intended to purge the game of poorer fans who might less docile
(even shouting rude words and stuff)and worse still - spend less money in the
megastores. These marketing men do still believe that "The customer is always right" -
its just that we're not the "right customers".
11. That'll do won't it? Now be a good little fan and sit down and obey NEW FOOTBALL:
"Verr iz yor kredit kardz? Vot - you do not hav von? Gardz - Ve hav an infiltrator -
take iz tiket book and eject him - pig-dog"
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[4] IMUSA Chief on GMR last night
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by redend:
IMUSA ( (link:http://www.imusa.org) http://www.imusa.org ) chairman - Mark Longden -
was on BBC GMR radio last night with a blue (Dave Wallace?) and a Bolton fan -
discussing various topics.
Most interesting was the standing debate. Funny how when its actual fans (i.e. those
who actually stand on the terrace) doing the debating the opinion was overwhelming in
favour of the introduction of limited safe standing areas - for those who would choose
to use them. Mark made all the right points. The only downside is he's getting a bit
too matey with some of these bitters and might need to go for detox when all this is
over and normal relations are restored.
Interesting contributions from two GMR journalists - both of whom were at Hillsborough
- and both of whom felt that was not relevant in the context of the current debate
relating to modern safe standing areas. Also top stuff from a German contributor
explaining their system - and very much lower prices.
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[3] Mind how you go - 150 miles off course
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by redend:
If you're up at the crack (as we say in the trade) on the way to Newcastle this
morning then watch how you go - or you might bump into this £ckwit:
Treacherous road conditions may have distracted a driver who found herself 150 miles
adrift of her destination. The unknown woman, who was travelling from London to
Liverpool, called police from an emergency phone box on the A1 northbound carriageway
at Newton Aycliffe, County Durham.
Police spokesman George Oliver said: "The weather caused few serious problems on the
road network in County Durham and Darlington today but there was one unusual incident
involving a woman driver - but it's not clear if her difficulties were
weather-related. [He's being kind here]
"The woman, apparently travelling alone, had set out from London earlier today heading
for Liverpool but she had clearly lost her way."
The wayward driver got straight through to the police control room and was given
directions after asking how far she was from Liverpool. [Not far enough - surely]
Mr Oliver said: "The operator advised her to go to the nearby motorway interchange at
Newton Aycliffe, turn round and start heading south. She was told that after about an
hour-and-a-half's driving she would reach the turn-off for the M62 which would take
her across to the north west."
Probably on her 15th lap of Greater Manchester by now - (that looks familiar from
earlier but this motorway must go somewhere). I should point out at this stage that
no-one from RED NEWS has ever got lost... anywhere ....ever...ok
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[2] The Betting
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by redend:
Result:
Newcastle win:3/1 United win:5/6 Draw:11/5
Scores: (United to win or draw)
1-0 6/1
2-0 13/2
2-1 7/1
3-0 12/1
3-1 12/1
3-2 25/1
4-0 33/1
4-1 28/1
4-2 50/1
5-0 100/1
5-1 100/1
6-0 100/1
6-1 100/1
0-0 8/1
1-1 11/2
2-2 14/1
3-3 50/1
And a mixture of other bets:
Ameobi to score 9/4
Lua Lua to score 9/4
Cordone to score 5/2
Solano to score 3/1
Dyer to score 3/1
Solskjaer to score 11/8
Scholes to score 15/8
Healy to score 2/1
Beckham to score 5/2
Giggs to score 11/4
Keane to score 4/1
Irwin to score 11/2
Butt to score 11/2
Cordone hat-trick 80/1
Dyer hat-trick 100/1
Lua Lua hat-trick 100/1
Ameobi hat-trick 100/1
Yorke hat-trick 28/1
Solskjaer hat-trick 33/1
Scholes hat-trick 50/1
Healy hat-trick 50/1
Beckham hat-trick 100/1
Speed scores a header 8/1
Solano scores a free-kick 10/1
Yorke scores a header 4/1
Beckham scores a free-kick 7/1
Marcelino to be booked 13/8
Dyer to be booked 3/1
Keane to be booked 6/4
Barthez to be sent off 33/1
A penalty scored 4/1
A penalty missed 10/1
A sending off 9/2
Newcastle to receive first booking 5/6
Man Utd to receive first booking 5/6
No Bookings 16/1
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[1] Newcastle v United Stats (OPTA)
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by redend:
Newcastle 20 United 20 Games Played
Newcastle 22 United 47 Goals scored
Newcastle 1.10 United 2.35 Ave goals per game
Newcastle 45% United 44% Shooting Accuracy
Newcastle 11% United 16% Goals to shots %
Newcastle 9034 United 10345 Passes
Newcastle 74% United 79% Pass completion %
Newcastle 71% United 75% Tackle success rate %
Newcastle 25 United 14 Goals conceded
Newcastle 1.25 United 0.70 Ave goals conceded per game
Newcastle 287 United 216 Fouls
Newcastle 24 United 21 Yellow cards
Newcastle 1 United 1 Red cards
Ref: M Riley
Fouls: 363
Penalties: 0
Yellows: 41
Reds: 1
