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--------------------------------- [34] More tributes for Wood --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: Wilf McGuinness in the MEN “We were going for the double that year and certainly favourites to beat Villa in the FA Cup final. But all that changed when Ray was flattened by McParland in the first half. I don’t think there has ever quite been a foul like that in an FA Cup final. Ray had the ball in his hands but McParland chased him for 10 yards and then hit him with a flying head-butt. That was the only time I ever saw Duncan Edwards angry on a football pitch. He came racing over with his eyes blazing but managed to control himself. It was obvious straight off that Ray was badly injured. It was reported after the match that he had fractured his cheekbone but I think his jaw was also broken by that challenge from McParland. The medical staff walked Ray around behind the stands trying to get him to come to his senses but it was obvious that he couldn’t continue in goal. We didn’t have substitutes in those days so Jackie Blanchflower had to go in goal. Ray came back in the second half and played up front ! for a while just to make up the numbers which says a lot about his bravery. But he was in great pain and he had to be brought off again and, with ten men, we couldn’t hold out an Villa beat us. Ray was a very competent goalkeeper who went on to play for England but it is fair to say that he wasn’t considered one of the bright lights in the team which became famous as the Busby Babes. I will never forget his performance in a European Cup tie against Borussia Dortmund in the mid-50s. We had drawn 3-3 against them at Maine Road and they must have thought they were through to the next round with the home leg to come. However, Ray stopped everything that came his way in the second match in Dortmund. He was absolutely brilliant and it was his performance more than anything else which got us a 0-0 draw and a place in the next round. He was a bit unfortunate in his spell at Old Trafford in that there was a lot of clamour for the club to go out and buy Harry Gregg from Doncaster Rovers who everyone was raving about. Harry did eventually arrive and Ray hardly got a look-in at first-team level after that and eventually left not long after the Munich disaster.” --------------------------------- [33] David Sadler on Ray Wood --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: “I got to know Ray reasonably well. He was a quiet, undemonstrative man but very interesting to listen to. He had some heart problems back in the 80s and underwent by-pass surgery but he was captain of his local golf club in Bexhill and was in good health right up his heart attack last weekend.” --------------------------------- [32] Nesta paradox --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: Lazio's Sergio Cragnotti “Nesta will probably be an Inter player before Friday” --------------------------------- [31] Blackburn angry over Duff talk --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: Rovers Chief executive John Williams "All the stories of hurriedly arranged talks and ultimatums are absolute nonsense and very disappointing to say the least That is not how we work and, thankfully, Damien is well aware of that. We spoke to Damien weeks and weeks ago, long before the World Cup in fact. And agreed to resume the discussions after the summer holiday." --------------------------------- [30] Souness gets serious --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: >From the Terrace reports that Sourness is stalling on signing on a contract extension >until he finds out if his board will sell Duff or not. --------------------------------- [29] Ronaldinho denies United talk --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: "I was never contacted by these clubs" (us and Barca) --------------------------------- [28] Have a word in his ear Wes --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: Agent Brown at work? Rio is on holiday in Las Vegas with Wes Brown and Ashley Cole. --------------------------------- [27] Nesta hint? --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: Lazio coach Roberto Mancini "It's true that there are too many players on our roster" --------------------------------- [26] Bournemouth ticket details --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: Bournemouth v A Select Manchester United XI Dean Court, Saturday 27 July, kick off 3pm Tickets go on general sale on Thursday July 11 and are limited to a maximum of four per person.They are priced at £12.50 for adults and £5 for Under 16's and over 65's. The allocation is approximately 1,300 and it's all-seater and covered. The Stand is The East Stand and the away section is called ES4. The seating is across the side of the pitch, not behind a goal. Tickets can be purchased through AFC Bournemouth by ringing 0845 011 2322(This is the Bournemouth International Centre [BIC] ticket hotline number) or through the official web site at www.afcb.co.uk. --------------------------------- [25] Tickets for West Brom on sale --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: The season beckons 'Manchester United v West Bromwich Albion On Saturday 17th August, United are at home to West Bromwich Albion, kick off 3pm. SPECIAL NOTICE TO MEMBERS:- Unfortunately this seasons membership packs will not be dispatched until 12th July. However, any existing members wishing to make a postal application are advised to do so using last seasons 2001/2 match ticket order form, noting price changes. Applications should include sae, open cheque made payable to MUFC or credit/debit card details (please note an administration fee of 3% per transaction is charged). Any new members can also apply by forwarding a letter of application, quoting Name, Address and Telephone details of each member, relevant payment and sae. Alternatively, members can make an online application using the clubs official website by clicking here. However, please note these applications will be given the same consideration as postal requests. JUNIOR TICKET SCHEME - we are pleased to announce that the junior ticket scheme will continue for 11 to 15 year olds only. A set number of seats (strictly for junior members only) will be allocated for every home game in the East Lower section of the stadium. Junior members wishing to take up the offer must complete the appropriate section on the match ticket order form. Members Seat Prices are as follows (subject to availability): North and South Stands Upper and Lower £27 North Stand 2nd Tier £25 North East / West Quadrants Upper and Lower £23 East and West Stand Upper £23 East and West Stand 2nd Tier £23 Family Stand £23 North Stand 3rd Tier £21 East and West Lower £19 A half price facility is available to under 16s and over 65s. Please note, in the event of being oversubscribed a postal ballot will be held to determine the successful applicants.Furthermore, Members should be mindful of the following points: 1) The Family Stand has a strict no smoking policy 2) Access to the North Stand 2nd / 3rd tier and East / West Stand 2nd tier seating involves a substantial amount of climbing. Persons having difficulty with climbing or suffering from vertigo are advised accordingly. FOR INFORMATION ONLY: THE NEXT PREMIER LEAGUE HOME GAME TO BE SOLD ISMIDDLESBROUGH, TO BE PLAYED ON TUESDAY 3RD SEPTEMBER KICK OFF 8PM. ANANNOUNCEMENT REGARDING SELLING ARRANGEMENTS FOR THIS MATCH WILL BE MADE ON TUESDAY 23RD JULY.' --------------------------------- [24] Nesta in new link --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: >From the Evening Standard 'Manchester United are hoping to pull off a double coup by signing Alessandro Nesta for less than £20 million and striking a blow against high transfer fees. Senior United sources believe the Lazio and Italy defender could be bought for as little as £15m.' --------------------------------- [23]Supporters United? --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by redend: Yawn? Its finally happened - the two main national supporters bodies The FSA (Football Supporters Association) and the NFFSC (National Federation of Football Supporters Clubs) have finally got their act together and merged into a single organisation ... The FSANFFSC? Nope - its the FSF - the Football Supporters Federation. They'll have been a lot of wrangling over the new name - who gets more words from the previous organisation names, apostrophes and sub-clauses. Its easy to take the p1ss .. and I never miss an opportunity. However - they have finally done it and it now means that the politicians and Football Authorities can no longer divide and rule. So does it make any diffence to Reds? Well we can only hope so. Most of the issues they campaign on af --------------------------------- [22] Unsubstantiated rumour #96784 --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by redend: This one was trickling in over the days after OhDearMe got the sack and probably due to nothing more than the dynamics of email whispers its become a bit of a torrent. Anyway - in case you haven't heard it and you like this kind of thing: Pigsy + Eddie G's Daughter = The Sack [Should that be "in the ..."] --------------------------------- [21] AP: SHEEP SHAGGED --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by redend: Plypin writes: When they said that they had got rid of Ohdearme in the close season, because of lack of success on the pitch, I think that most people raised an eyebrow. If that were the real reason, then why not do it in May, or just before the World Cup when no-one would really be looking? Just like with the Stam issue, it is perfectly obvious what the real reason for his dismissal, and the way that it was done does not suggest that they had anyone lined up to step into his shoes. Imagine them going into the new season with Kiddo at the helm?? There would have been riots, if he had been in charge whilst Rio was sold to us. There have been strong rumours for some time here, that Martin O'Neill will be replaced by Keano as player-manager at the end of this season. Roy the Boy has always said that he wants to play for the hoops, and O'Neill is a rare commodity in this day and age - a man of his word. No-one seriously believes that Sir Alex will see out his 3 years, and if we lift the European Cup at OT at the end of the season, I can see them both bowing out in style. Like Kidd, Steve McClaren was an unsung hero at OT, and showed that it was no fluke by his boro side beating us twice last season. I reckon that this would have been a really bold move, although it would seem that he also preferred to honour his current contract. However, most leeds fans would settle for being relegated, if it meant getting the double over us. And so, to the cockney wide boy - who my nephews think is me! He always talks a good game on tv, but is a nearly man who has never really won anything. Despite what is being said about a 2 year deal, I reckon that he is only really a stop-gap until O'Neill becomes available. There will be an interesting battle for his signature!! So, Ohdearme spends £100m on his baybees, and wins nowt! Ridsdale must be nuts, if he has forgotten to check El Tel's CV, or has it been carefully edited like an episode of Hazel? --------------------------------- [20] Liverpool enter Duff fray --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: the team he apparently supported as a kid --------------------------------- [19] O'Leary puts pressure on El Til? --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: "All I wish Terry is good luck in the job at Leeds. It doesn't matter to me who is in the job now, but I really do wish him well. Terry is very experienced in coaching and management and has built up a fantastic reputation for himself down the years. Now he just has to go on and win something for Leeds. And I honestly believe that, if he can keep hold of the players there that he needs to pick up trophies, then he will certainly win something. The fact is that Terry has got to go in there, take it on and turn it into trophies. And, providing he doesn't have to suffer the same kind of off-field problems that I had to contend with over the last couple of years at the club, then he can do that without any shadow of doubt. I have left Terry with a top-class squad packed with experience and talent. With a bit of luck, I don't think he will be far away from the title this season." --------------------------------- [18] Ridsdale plans to keep Rio --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: :"We had a very friendly meeting with Venables. He wanted to know where we stood and I :reiterated our position that Rio was not for sale under any circumstances and would :form an important part of our plans under Terry. He was absolutely fine about that. :And let's say Terry's appointment won't hinder the chance of all this uncertainty :being put to rest. I was told Rio was both pleasantly surprised and hugely impressed :with Terry's appointment. He volunteered that and I was pleased to hear it." --------------------------------- [17] An appointment just to get Rio to stay --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: George Graham reckons Rio will now stay at leeds - surely didn't get the job just because of that? "Terry's arrival as manager is a massive plus for Leeds in their bid to hang on to Rio. Terry's arrival, in that respect, could not have been better timed. It will help their cause. There is no question it is a massive plus in their fight to stop Rio going to United. Terry has a terrific personality and he will leave Rio in no doubt about how he sees his future. They are both London lads and know each other inside-out. Terry knows all about Rio's qualities as a player, while Ferdinand - like every other player you care to mention - will have the utmost respect for Terry's coaching ability and man-management skills." --------------------------------- [16] Robbo to Leeds --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: SUN reports that Robbo could join El Til as his Number 2. --------------------------------- [15] Ray Wood RIP --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: Ray Wood passed away after a heart attack yesterday. Wood was goalier for United in the infamous 1957 Cup Final against Villa when he was fouled and had his jaw broken in a rough challenge early on, went off injured, only to come back and try and keep later on in the game. He survived the Munich tragedy, winning 2 titles and playing over 200 times. There was unhappiness about the delay in a testimonial for the families of those involved in the terrible events of February 6th and the way it was handled by the club in the way the team were compensated, he later thankfully managed to stop an auction sale of his medals when he'd wanted them to go to his family. Our thoughts go out to his family born June 11 1931 --------------------------------- [14] Fergie on transfer inactivity --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: "I have never known it so quiet. But it may activate as soon as somebody buys a player. One or two transfers could start a domino effect." --------------------------------- [13] Leeds stop another united agent from spoiling our fun --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: Guardian report that McClaren nearly got the Leeds job 'It is a stark contrast from the situation facing McClaren, who has been left in an invidious position at Middlesbrough that threatens to compromise his relationship with the chairman Steve Gibson and the chief executive Keith Lamb. Though there was no direct contact between himself and Ridsdale, the Leeds chairman had held detailed negotiations with representatives of the Middlesbrough manager with a view to exploiting a get-out clause in his contract that allows him to join another Premiership club if compensation of £1.2m were agreed. Contrary to reports that McClaren had turned down the job, Leeds had been informed he was willing to leave Middlesbrough. The Teesside club would have been powerless to prevent his departure and a deal had been provisionally agreed until members of the Leeds plc board had second thoughts over the weekend. Ridsdale was informed that there were reservations about McClaren's close links with Manchester United, and it was also pointed out that Venables would not cost a penny in compensation.' --------------------------------- [12] Quieroz on Fergie --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: "Within seconds, I felt at ease with him. 'In that moment, if I had any doubts they just disappeared. It was really a magic moment. I have done a lot of homework - not just on the club and the players but also the fans and the local culture. I don't have any problems or worries about working with such high-profile players. Since I first became a coach in 1978, I have worked with some of the best in the world - Figo, Rui Costa, Futre . . . many, many others. At the end of the day, you want players to respect you - whether you are right or wrong. You should be ready to win the hearts of the players through your competence, ideas and technical capability. I am confident that I will convince them that my work is not to burden them but to make them become better players. I believe in inner discipline, in common rules, common missions, common principles. I am not a policeman. What I don't like is to deal with people who lie to football. In that sense you can say I am a no-nonsense ! person. If you lie against football you damage the interests of the fans, the club and your team-mates. We cannot support that." --------------------------------- [11] Queiroz on being offered the job --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: "How long did I have to think about it? Good forwards in front of goal don't need time to think before they put the ball in the net. The ball came and I scored. I believe I have made the best decision of my life. I see my role firstly as working within the strategic concept of the manager. Secondly, I hope to improve the players and the team and make them ready to perform the best they can." Talk we like to hear --------------------------------- [10] Our new Number 2 speaks --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: Carlos Queiroz: "It is a very complex situation, to have some of the best players in the world and make them believe they can progress through hard work. Even when you reach the standards that United have, there is always room for improvement. We can do that with a lot of concentration, motivation and hard work. I believe it is all about the fine details; to be professional in all things. It is all about attitude." --------------------------------- [9] Buxton on Rio --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: "Terry would certainly like him to stay, and I think Rio's got a lot of respect for Terry so that might help." --------------------------------- [8] El Til giddiness sweeps Leeds --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: old El Til pal Ted Buxton "Leeds have a terrific squad with some tremendous players. They underachieved a bit last season with the problems off the field but Terry Venables can get that lot back on the road again. He can do a Barcelona for them, he won the title in his first year there." --------------------------------- [7] El Til tries to lure Rio to stay --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: El Til has spoken to Rio's agent Pini Zahavi (sounds like a new drink) and aims to speak to Rio himself today. --------------------------------- [6] Red News summer offer --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: Red News published 9 issues last season, of which we have limited stocks of 8 still available. As a special offer you can purchase ALL eight issues together with a FREE copy of Red News' book celebrating the Nou Camp triumph in 1999 - European Glory - all for the bargain price of just £13.50 including postage and packing. This is a must have offer so go on! 8 issues + book for £13.50 inc p&p in the UK 8 issues + book for £16 inc p&p in Europe and rest of the world. Send your order by cheque, made payable to Red News, to Red News, P.O.Box 176, Manchester, M16 8LG or you can now order by credit card. click on --------------------------------- [5] Youngster opts for Spurs ahead of us --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: Belgian 18 year old Jonathan Blondel "At United they wanted to put me in the Under-19 squad. The fact that Spurs offered me a four-year contract felt like an act of faith in me." --------------------------------- [4] Order a Red News sub online --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by bar-knee: Thanks to our new link with the safe, simple to use and world wide massively known paypal you can now order your 10 issue subscription to Red News the fanzine via credit card payment, ordering online from wherever you live in the world, getting the mag to your door. To order the 10 issue sub to be sent to a UK address click on To order the 10 issue sub to be sent to an address in the rest of the world click on And those philanthropists out there can help with our costs by making an online donation via paypal. Doesn't matter how small the amount is, every bit helps with the costs of the site - thanks. click on. --------------------------------- [3] End of season Video/DVD --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by redend: Warming up for the new season with a review of last year. Where did it all go wrong? You can get the MUFC 2001/2002 VIDEO by clicking http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000667KG/rednewsunitesfir HERE or the DVD http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000667KH/rednewsunitesfir HERE - both at 10% off. What? You only buy it when we win something do you? Tut, Tut - Glory Hunter. VIDEO: Manchester United - End Of Season Review 2001/2002 List Price: £14.99 RN/Amazon Price: £13.49 You Save: £1.50 (10%) DVD: Manchester United - End Of Season Review 2001/2002 List Price: £19.99 RN/Amazon Price: £17.99 You Save: £2.00 (10%) --------------------------------- [2] Son's First Game --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by redend: Check this picture out on the http://www.rednews.co.uk/forum/RED.php RED FORUM under the thread "Son's First Game". --------------------------------- [1]Teddy shagged my wife ... --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002 by redend: .... nearly. A regular RN contributor, lets call him Michael, reports that his wife was in Marbella this weekend on an Irish girls weekend lash-up. He gets this phone call from the Mrs at 2AM Saturday morning asking if our man knows a footballer called Teddy Sheringham cos she's just been bending his ear in the bar. She doesn't have any interest in football you see but her friends identify the authenticity of the Teddy. Michael patiently explains - err yes he's a bit of a United legend having scored one or two important goals in 1999 - in particular in the Nou Camp, Barcelona. As if to reinforce the hero worship point (and bear in mind he may have partaken of several cold beverages) he then explained to his Mrs that she had permission to offer her body to him as some kind of sacrificial gesture to the Red God. After all Teddy had already given Michael a multiple orgasm in the Nou Camp so it would only be fair. So she went back to the bar and passed on the details of her conversation to Edward - although, to defend her honour, we should point out she explained she wasn't that type of girl so the shag was not on. She explained that her husband was an ST holder at OT and, thanks to Teddy, he had moistened his undergarments in the Nou Camp. Teddy revealed that "the Spurs fans are pretty fickle" and repeated several times that "United fans are the greatest in the World ...". Aaaawwww. --------------------------------- [25] Short and sweet --------------------------------- Posted Monday, July 8, 2002 by bar-knee: MEN and a few other media outlets go with the short line that Keano is "flying" in training. --------------------------------- [24] Ronaldo u-turn --------------------------------- Posted Monday, July 8, 2002 by bar-knee: Says he hasn't thought about England, pre the World Cup he was offered to a few English sides for £10m and he has said in the past he'd like to finish in our league "It's not something I have ever really considered, and if I ever left Italian football I would be more likely to return to Spain or go hover really considered, and if I ever left Italian football I would be more likely to return to Spain or go home to Brazil. I think English football is exciting and the game has moved on incredibly over the last few years. But it's not a League I have any desire to play in. I don't think going to the Premiership would make me a better player - something I'm always striving to do. The pace of the English game is so frantic and it doesn't suit the way we are brought up to play - perhaps that is why so many Brazilians avoid going there. There was talk of interest from England and tentative enquiries from Italy and Spain. But PSV didn't talk, they signed me - and my career took off. I had two great seasons at PSV - it was an education and an honour. But after that, like most Brazilians, I was always destined to play in either Spain or Italy." --------------------------------- [23] Fergie at the races --------------------------------- Posted Monday, July 8, 2002 by bar-knee: >From RN contributor Tony 'Just got a call from a workmate of mine who spotted Fergie at Shannon Airport earlier today. Fergie was on his way back from Istabraq's retirement party at J.P.McManus's Martinstown Stables. My boss was also at the party and he said that Fergie was very approachable. You won't hear that in the tabloid press though as they always try to make up bad press about Fergie. All of the Coolmore Mafia were in attendance. ' --------------------------------- [22] Veron says he wants to stay --------------------------------- Posted Monday, July 8, 2002 by bar-knee: "My own ambition is secondary to the enormous debt of honour and friendship that I owe to Alex Ferguson. He stood by me and defended my reputation in public. My debt of honour to the manager must be paid in full. The simple answer is I am staying and I would like to see out at least the remaining years of my contract and possibly more if they want me." --------------------------------- [21] Rio must stay --------------------------------- Posted Monday, July 8, 2002 by bar-knee: Peter Lorimer "Leeds have to get rid of around £15million of players but I think Terry will get rid of three or four of the lesser lights. The main thing is to talk Rio Ferdinand and Lee Bowyer to stay at Leeds United. He has to convince them they have a future at Elland Road. That is his number one job. We are looking to the future. Terry can work with one of the best squads in the country. He has a high profile job. I would think it is the only job he would do. Look at the potential he has to work with. We have young players with great futures. Anyone would jump at this chance. It shows he believes in this." --------------------------------- [20] Our new Number 2 the business --------------------------------- Posted Monday, July 8, 2002 by bar-knee: Shaun Bartlett "Carlos Queiroz has ideas about what to do with those players and is very good at helping individuals. Carlos is very knowledgeable and is always approachable. He'll be the perfect counter to Sir Alex Ferguson. A terrific link between the manager and the players. He is a great communicator. People are already talking about him succeeding Sir Alex as manager and he'll be looking at that. He'd do a terrific job." --------------------------------- [19] massive news --------------------------------- Posted Monday, July 8, 2002 by bar-knee: siddy must sell City chairman David Bernstein "Any squad has to be balanced and of course the manger knows that. Kevin and I and the board have agreed that we need to move some players. But we're not in a situation that it has to be done with any urgency. We will wait and see what happens. I would stress, too, that we're not a club where there are bargains to be had. We have some great players (like who??????? oh yeah forgot about the goat). The squad is a little bigger than we would like. But if anything happens it will happen in the right way with clubs coming to us if they see players who they want." --------------------------------- [18] Rovers want Duff to stay --------------------------------- Posted Monday, July 8, 2002 by bar-knee: Chief executive John Williams "Clearly, everyone at the club would like Damien to stay. I have spoken with Graeme Souness and he is confident he can persuade Damien to remain with us on football grounds, at least for the foreseeable future." --------------------------------- [17] Blackpool 5-a-side --------------------------------- Posted Monday, July 8, 2002 by bar-knee: euroworld travel would like to thank red news for their help in advertising the 2nd manchester united 5 aside tournament held this weekend. 16 teams took part from manchester, essex, kent, london, newton le willows, altrincham and stockport . real hacienda from altrincham beating inter manchester on penalties in the final. the hotels have thanked all who stayed for their behavoiur. the red news team also had a memorable result against a team of very sexy manchester nurses later on the saturday night. keep it quiet but the editor even hit the post Martin, euroworld --------------------------------- [16] Rio talk --------------------------------- Posted Monday, July 8, 2002 by Stalker: This from Mr Grimsdale during his meeting with El Til in spain "Rio Ferdinand was obviously discussed. Of course Terry would like him at Elland Road and my point of view was that he is a player who is contracted to us and, as far as I am concerned, that is the way it will stay. ---------------------------------------------------------- This email has been filtered for swear words which cause some email systems to block messages. ----------------------------------------------------------