Frans, are you asking for an "adult developer" and showing this post? *in the same mail?* * * This post is bad joke and meaningless. * I like having options, Hql and Linq, because some queries in Linq are a PITA. * I can deal with assemblies. * I do believe in opensource way of doing things, community-driven, and I think it works very well in nhibernate.
and at the end the guy said : "The situation is frustrating because NHibernate is currently my data access tool of choice. For all of its shortcomings I do not know of a better alternative. " so WTF? A criticism to nhibernate that ends with "I do not know a better alternative", Lets suppose that there is a better alternative and he doesn't know yet... This better alternative has failed already, because he can't find it, so it doesn't have any wikis, blogs or so. Then .... is not better at all. I wouldn't trust in something like that. 2010/8/28 Frans Bouma <[email protected]> > Serious question: why are you mocking my serious post? Is it so hard for > you > to act as an adult developer for once? Was it again me who was out of line, > Fabio? FFS! > > It's not me who noticed it first btw: > http://hackingon.net/post/A-Criticism-of-NHibernate.aspx > > Anyway, the 'dev list' you mentioned has had no debate about a feature > since > I subscribed months ago. > > Unf**king believeable. > > FB > > > > ahh... bureaucratic stuff. ok > > Some features are proposed by users in JIRA. If the feature is trivial > then > > it is discussed directly in the comments of JIRA ticket; where no trivial > is > > discussed and voted by the wind-team in the NH's wind-dev-list. > > Some other features, as for example QueryOver, come from contrib > projects; > > how include, what include and how implements the idea in the core is > > partially discussed and voted by the wind-team in the NH's wind-dev-list, > > and partially discussed, in private, by wind-team's members as, in this > > case, Richard Wind Brown, Oren Wind Eini and Fabio Wind Maulo. > > > > The features proposed by wind-team's member are discussed and voted by > the > > wind-team in the NH's wind-dev-list. (you can observe this behavior in > > various cases in the wind-dev-list history as for example the old linq- > > provider, the proposal of ConfORM, the remotion of some strongly > reference > > as Castle, log4net, etc. etc.) > > > > There are some features that does not need a deep discussion because > > NHibernate is :".NET port of the excellent Java Hibernate which provides > > Object/Relational mapping to persist objects in a relational database." > > These features follows a similar procedure but, this time, in the > > Hibernate's wind-team. > > > > To be short: "Wind" is the second or third name of each NHibernate's team > > member. > > > > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 4:55 AM, Frans Bouma <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Though who adds the features and who decides which ones are > > implemented? > > That's what I meant. I'm not suggesting BDUF, I'm suggesting a step > > back > > from the framework and look at what should be done, then add those > > tasks, > > ask volunteers to develop them from front to back (that means: > code, > > design > > decision description doc (for maintainability), tests and > > documentation > > (!)). > > > > FB > > > > > > > The wind come from here > > > http://nhforge.org/wikis/howtonh/nhibernate-features.aspx > > > <http://nhforge.org/wikis/howtonh/nhibernate-features.aspx> > > > > > > http://nhibernate.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/nhibernate/trunk/nhibern > > ate/rel > > > easenotes.txt?revision=5159&view=markup > > > http://nhforge.org/blogs/nhibernate/ > > > > > > > > > <http://nhibernate.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/nhibernate/trunk/nhiber > > nate/re > > > > > leasenotes.txt?revision=5159&view=markup> for work done after > > Alpha2 > > > > release > > > the wind come from here > > > > > > http://216.121.112.228/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10000&versio > > n=10320 > > > > > > > > > <http://216.121.112.228/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10000&versi > > on=1032 > > > > > 0> if somebody want to know from where will come the wind in the > > next > > > > future > > > http://216.121.112.228/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Frans Bouma <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Though, it might be good to make a list of features which > are > > must- > > > have > > > features for 3.0 so focus can be given to those. Now it > looks > > like > > it > > > depends on the direction where the wind comes from. > > > > > > FB > > > > > > > > > > I'd say it's pretty stable, thanks to continuous > > integration. > > > > Only new areas (Linq, QueryOver, etc) are seeing major > > changes; > > > everything > > > > else remains compatible with 2.1.2. > > > > > > > > That said, sometimes there ARE unintended breaking > changes. > > It > > > doesn't > > > hurt > > > > to try, though. > > > > > > > > Diego > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 16:51, v64 > > <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > We're trying to decide whether/when to switch to > > 3.0.0 and > > > need some > > > > input. > > > > > > > > How stable is it? What are areas of instability? > > > > > > > > When is the release planned? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > v64 > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are > subscribed > > to the > > > Google > > > > Groups "nhusers" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > [email protected]. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > > [email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > > <mailto:nhusers%[email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > > > > > > > <mailto:nhusers%[email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > > <mailto:nhusers%[email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]>> > > > > > > > > > > > <mailto:nhusers%[email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > > <mailto:nhusers%[email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > <mailto:nhusers%[email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > > <mailto:nhusers%[email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]>> > > > . > > > > > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/nhusers?hl=en. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to > the > > Google > > > Groups > > > > "nhusers" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > > [email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > > <mailto:nhusers%[email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > > > > > > > <mailto:nhusers%[email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > > <mailto:nhusers%[email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]>> > > . > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/nhusers?hl=en. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > Google > > > Groups "nhusers" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > [email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > > <mailto:nhusers%[email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > > > > > > > <mailto:nhusers%[email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > > <mailto:nhusers%[email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]>> > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > http://groups.google.com/group/nhusers?hl=en. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Fabio Maulo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google > > Groups > > > "nhusers" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > [email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > > <mailto:nhusers%[email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]>> > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > http://groups.google.com/group/nhusers?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "nhusers" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > > <mailto:nhusers%[email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]>> > . > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/nhusers?hl=en. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fabio Wind Maulo > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "nhusers" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > . > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/nhusers?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "nhusers" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nhusers?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nhusers" group. 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