> Frans, are you asking for an "adult developer" and showing this post? in
the
> same mail?
>
> This post is bad joke and meaningless.
> * I like having options, Hql and Linq, because some queries in Linq are a
> PITA.
> * I can deal with assemblies.
> * I do believe in opensource way of doing things, community-driven, and I
> think it works very well in nhibernate.
>
> and at the end the guy said :
>
> "The situation is frustrating because NHibernate is currently my data
access
> tool of choice. For all of its shortcomings I do not know of a better
> alternative. "
>
> so WTF? A criticism to nhibernate that ends with "I do not know a better
> alternative", Lets suppose that there is a better alternative and he
doesn't
> know yet... This better alternative has failed already, because he can't
> find it, so it doesn't have any wikis, blogs or so. Then .... is not
better
> at all. I wouldn't trust in something like that.
*sigh*.
Did you even read the first line of that post? Anyway, it was an
_example_.
And what's your point exactly, Jose? I asked a serious question, got
a stupid childish reply back. Your post is also an illustration how mature
some people are on this list. Sorry I *asked* a question about how things
are done, because ofcourse that has to be slammed down quickly with replies
like yours, burrying the real point.
FB
> 2010/8/28 Frans Bouma <[email protected]>
>
>
> Serious question: why are you mocking my serious post? Is it so hard
> for you
> to act as an adult developer for once? Was it again me who was out
of
> line,
> Fabio? FFS!
>
> It's not me who noticed it first btw:
> http://hackingon.net/post/A-Criticism-of-NHibernate.aspx
>
> Anyway, the 'dev list' you mentioned has had no debate about a
> feature since
> I subscribed months ago.
>
> Unf**king believeable.
>
> FB
>
>
>
> > ahh... bureaucratic stuff. ok
> > Some features are proposed by users in JIRA. If the feature is
> trivial
> then
> > it is discussed directly in the comments of JIRA ticket; where no
> trivial
> is
> > discussed and voted by the wind-team in the NH's wind-dev-list.
> > Some other features, as for example QueryOver, come from contrib
> projects;
> > how include, what include and how implements the idea in the core
> is
> > partially discussed and voted by the wind-team in the NH's wind-
> dev-list,
> > and partially discussed, in private, by wind-team's members as, in
> this
> > case, Richard Wind Brown, Oren Wind Eini and Fabio Wind Maulo.
> >
> > The features proposed by wind-team's member are discussed and
voted
> by the
> > wind-team in the NH's wind-dev-list. (you can observe this
behavior
> in
> > various cases in the wind-dev-list history as for example the old
> linq-
> > provider, the proposal of ConfORM, the remotion of some strongly
> reference
> > as Castle, log4net, etc. etc.)
> >
> > There are some features that does not need a deep discussion
> because
> > NHibernate is :".NET port of the excellent Java Hibernate which
> provides
> > Object/Relational mapping to persist objects in a relational
> database."
> > These features follows a similar procedure but, this time, in the
> > Hibernate's wind-team.
> >
> > To be short: "Wind" is the second or third name of each
> NHibernate's team
> > member.
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 4:55 AM, Frans Bouma <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Though who adds the features and who decides which ones are
> > implemented?
> > That's what I meant. I'm not suggesting BDUF, I'm suggesting
> a step
> > back
> > from the framework and look at what should be done, then add
> those
> > tasks,
> > ask volunteers to develop them from front to back (that
> means: code,
> > design
> > decision description doc (for maintainability), tests and
> > documentation
> > (!)).
> >
> > FB
> >
> >
> > > The wind come from here
> > > http://nhforge.org/wikis/howtonh/nhibernate-features.aspx
> > >
<http://nhforge.org/wikis/howtonh/nhibernate-features.aspx>
> > >
> >
>
http://nhibernate.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/nhibernate/trunk/nhibern
> > ate/rel
> > > easenotes.txt?revision=5159&view=markup
> > > http://nhforge.org/blogs/nhibernate/
> > >
> > >
> >
>
<http://nhibernate.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/nhibernate/trunk/nhiber
> > nate/re
> >
> > > leasenotes.txt?revision=5159&view=markup> for work done
> after
> > Alpha2
> >
> > release
> > > the wind come from here
> > >
> >
>
http://216.121.112.228/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10000&versio
> > n=10320
> > >
> > >
> >
>
<http://216.121.112.228/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10000&versi
> > on=1032
> >
> > > 0> if somebody want to know from where will come the wind
> in the
> > next
> >
> > future
> > > http://216.121.112.228/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Frans Bouma <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Though, it might be good to make a list of features
> which
> are
> > must-
> > > have
> > > features for 3.0 so focus can be given to those. Now
> it
> looks
> > like
> > it
> > > depends on the direction where the wind comes from.
> > >
> > > FB
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'd say it's pretty stable, thanks to continuous
> > integration.
> > > > Only new areas (Linq, QueryOver, etc) are seeing
> major
> > changes;
> > > everything
> > > > else remains compatible with 2.1.2.
> > > >
> > > > That said, sometimes there ARE unintended breaking
> changes.
> > It
> > > doesn't
> > > hurt
> > > > to try, though.
> > > >
> > > > Diego
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 16:51, v64
> > <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We're trying to decide whether/when to
switch
> to
> > 3.0.0 and
> > > need some
> > > > input.
> > > >
> > > > How stable is it? What are areas of
> instability?
> > > >
> > > > When is the release planned?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > v64
> > > >
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