corn? maybe the critters were getting ready to put it on the exhaust pipes
after a ride to make popcorn!
Have a great day ~ J. Scott
________________________________
From: Dennis Hammerl <blues...@yahoo.com>
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:46:45 PM
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 Nighthawk 700s K&N Air filter
Sounds like a critter moved in... happens a lot. I opened up a Wing air box
once that was full of corn... K&N's are pricey, shop around.
--- On Mon, 3/30/09, jeff scott <scott6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: jeff scott <scott6...@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 Nighthawk 700s K&N Air filter
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 11:51 PM
Ahh ok, i guess i better buy a new one for my bike then because i took it out
to inspect it and there was leaves and a bunch of other debree in it ( the big
stuff all came out with tapping on it and pulling it out by hand but its not
100% clean)I read about people putting K&N filters oninstead of the OEM filters
, are they alot better ? do they make them for the NH 650 ?where would the
cheapest place to get them be? we are on VERY limited (next to none) income is
why i ask that
Have a great day ~ J. Scott
________________________________
From: Dennis Hammerl <blues...@yahoo.com>
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:42:23 PM
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 Nighthawk 700s K&N Air filter
If you can't see light through it, replace it. Just like any car filter.
Cleanable ? no.
--- On Mon, 3/30/09, jeff scott <scott6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: jeff scott <scott6...@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 Nighthawk 700s K&N Air filter
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 11:39 PM
How often do the original type (U shaped) filters have to be changed or are
they cleanable.. and if cleanable how?Also i have a couple pics of the '85 NH i
bought and would like to have them put on the group home page... how do i get
them put on there?
Have a great day ~ J. Scott groups home page... how do
________________________________
From: Dennis Hammerl <blues...@yahoo.com>
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:16:55 PM
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 Nighthawk 700s K&N Air filter
No, at first. It becomes an asset later. The K&N is cone shaped and installed,
the small end is down. That should make you wonder.
FYI: the original is a paper pleated that is "U" shaped.
--- On Mon, 3/30/09, stanley/ Randolph <tinkrm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: stanley/ Randolph <tinkrm...@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 Nighthawk 700s K&N Air filter
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 3:09 PM
Dennis,
Your question piqued my curiosity. Does the shape of the filter make a
difference in the performance?
Stanley
________________________________
From: Snookfever <snookfev...@comcast.net>
To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 2:55:57 PM
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 Nighthawk 700s K&N Air filter
Just reread (destructions) I was supposed to put snokel back on and
was not!!! Rain stopped! WIll do it right abd get back to you.
Thanks again for your patience...
On Mar 28, 12:07 am, Dennis Hammerl <blues...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Find anything in the slow jets ? How about the brass tubes above the mains ?
> At 3~4K you start to depend on the next circuits to supply fuel. Since these
> have enricheners and not chokes, you can add some choke to make it run
> richer. Now if that helps, increase the main jets to 120. You don't specify
> if the stumble is just that or it is popping. ?? A pop is a good indication
> of lean. If it truly is that lean, you could'nt get it to go above 5k at all.
> Getting it up there slowly means to me (IMHO) that the air speed is too slow
> to pick off fuel. That's where the choke addition comes in. If that makes it
> worse, let me know. A high air flow filter actually causes a slowing of the
> flow. Untill they repeal the laws of physics (Obama just might) high speed
> air works best. You do have the lid on the air box ? With the snorkle ? I
> hope so. A complete air box is vital.
> One more thing, is this K&N cone shaped ?
>
> --- On Fri, 3/27/09, Snookfever <snookfev...@comcast.net> wrote:
> From: Snookfever <snookfev...@comcast.net>
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 Nighthawk 700s K&N Air filter
> To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" <nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 12:56 PM
>
> Ok, I wired the slow jets,put the K&N air filter in. I found some
> particles in the bottom of the carbs so I added an in line fuel
> filter.
>
> It ran fine at idle. Take off was ok. When you open the throttle from
> 3k to 4K it sputtered, could not get to 5 K and beyond without very
> gradual throttle turn.
>
> Plug Test:
>
> Cleaned number 1 and 4 plug and replaced. Both were brown on one side
> and white on the other
>
> Pulled plugs after 1 mile ride and no real color change from cleaned
> look.
>
> What now?
>
> Glen
>
> On Mar 22, 6:38 pm, Dennis Hammerl <blues...@yahoo.com> wrote:> If you can't
> pass a wire through it, it isn't clean. That's
>
> what I mean. The wire size is .0011" for a #35 slow jet. I don't care
> if you can blow through it, see through it,etc. If a .0011" wire
> doesn't pass through it, NG.> If you want it to work with a K&N, test that
> way.
>
> > --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Snookfever <snookfev...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > From: Snookfever <snookfev...@comcast.net>
> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 Nighthawk 700s K&N Air filter
> > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!"
>
> <nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com>> Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 2:19 AM
>
> > What do you mean by did I wire out the slow jet? I soked them in
> > acetone and blew them out with compressed air. I pulled number 4 plug
> > it was light tan on the insulation with some black on the threads.
> > Should I run the plug test with the stock filter or the K&N?
>
> > On Mar 21, 3:03 pm, Dennis Hammerl <blues...@yahoo.com> wrote:>
>
> Did you wire out the slow jet ? And yes, I have a method of enriching a
>
>
>
>
>
> > K&N filter. I have one in one of my 700s and it required no changes
> but I
> > did a neat stunt and gave it more bottom end. My 700s pulls hard from 2K
> up.
> > Made huge difference for me. I granny around a lot and spend too much time
> in
> > traffic. Less shifting now. To understand it, you need to grasp air flow
> > dynamics. The British did some good research on it back in the 50's.
> Get it
> > to work right first.
>
> > > --- On Sat, 3/21/09, Snookfever <snookfev...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> > > From: Snookfever <snookfev...@comcast.net>
> > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 Nighthawk 700s K&N Air
> filter
> > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!"
>
> > <nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com>
>
> > > Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 9:57 AM
>
> > > I am very meticulous so I completely tore down the carbs and cleaned
> > > evey single part individually including pilot, needle,main jets,
> > > choke, every part. I was careful to put the same part back in the
> > > same carbs. I also disasembled and cleaned the petcock and screen.
> I
> > > blew every part dry with compressed air, I replaced O-rings and
> > > reasembled. The factory air filter is relatively new.
>
> > > I installed the K&N as instructed and removed the snorkel flipped
> the
> > > lid and installed. With the factory air box it idles perfect, but
> does
> > > hesitate just a little at take off. I will perform the spark plug
> > > check and get back to you, but when I pulled one they were lite
> > > colored. Looks like she is running a little lean. If that is the
> case
> > > what do you do to enrich?
>
> > > Thanks for the help
>
> > > On Mar 20, 12:55 am, Dennis Hammerl <blues...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:>
>
> > Above 5k it runs mostly on the mains. I expected you to say right off idle
>
> > > when pulling out. If you really cleaned the carbs, how ?> Now to
> do a
>
> > defined search for your problem. Ride the bike at the problem
>
> > > RPM for several minutes.put up with all it's actions. Ride it for
> at
> > least a
> > > half mile that way. Pull the clutch and shut it down with the kill
> switch.
> > Pull
> > > over and remove some plugs. White ? brown ?, black ?> Take a
> picture
>
> > and forward. A plug reading, done right will indicate the
>
> > > nature of the problem.> From what you tell me about the tank rust
>
> > problem, I suspect the supply is
>
> > > poor to the carbs. The original air filter (especially if it was
> somewhat
> > dirty)
> > > would be a compliment to a poor delivery system. The K&N, passing
> more
> > air,
> > > would not. In other words.. lean, white plugs. Main jets are not
> likely to
> > ever
> > > clog, but with an inadequate fuel supply the condition you describe
> would
> > be
> > > expected.> One last point for this post, are you installing the
> K&N
> > with the
>
> > > air-box lid ? Very tempting to do. It sounds neat, but runs poorly.
>
> > > > --- On Thu, 3/19/09, Snookfever <snookfev...@comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> > > > From: Snookfever <snookfev...@comcast.net>
> > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 Nighthawk 700s K&N Air
> > filter
> > > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!"
>
> > > <nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com>
>
> > > > Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 1:13 AM
>
> > > > Dennis,
>
> > > > Withe the K&N It is not responsive,bogs down when
> accelerating.
> > I do
> > > > not remember the exact RPM range, but I think above 5K so maybe
> > > > midrange. I discovered rust in the fuel tank (fuel on pant
> leg) a
> > few
> > > > week after I got the bike. The carbs looked like they were
> painted
> > > > red with the rust particles. I redid the tank with KBS
> coatings and
> > > > did a complete carb breakdown and cleaning and the carbs looked
> > great.
> > > > I sinked the butterflies manually with the stem of a micrometer
> and
> > it
> > > > ran great.
>
> > > > With the OEM filter It does take a few minutes to warm up or it
> will
> > > > want to die at take off. I have a shop manual and reset the
> pilots
> > the
> > > > same number of turn as they were set from the factory.
>
> > > > On Mar 19, 12:27 am, Dennis Hammerl <blues...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:>
>
> > > If you can describe what crap runs like, maybe I can help. By
> themselves,
>
> > > > K&N filters do not affect anything. Great replacements
> (sorry
> > Stanley)
> > > > Installed properly, they require no rejetting. Mine works fine.
>
> > > > > --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Snookfever
>
> <snookfev...@comcast.net>
>
>
>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > From: Snookfever <snookfev...@comcast.net>
> > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1984 Nighthawk 700s K&N Air
> > filter
> > > > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!"
>
> > > > <nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com>
>
> > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 11:14 PM
>
> > > > > I bought a K&N air filter, but it makes the bike run
> like
> > crap.
> > > What
> > > > > do I need to do the carbs?
>
> > > > > Looking for a nose cone for my 700S, where can I find one?
>
> > > > > Sincerely,
>
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