they like warm places and after you parked it on your return home they moved in 
to their new warm diggs.  Put some Warfarin round and about in the garage then 
after a few warm days they'll let you know where they are so you can 
remove'em...LOL


--- On Wed, 4/1/09, jeff scott <scott6...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: jeff scott <scott6...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 Nighthawk 700s K&N Air filter
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 1:56 AM
> I recently had an experience with a critter ( mouse or rat)
> that decided to make a nest under the hood of my daily
> driven '97 Chevy Blazer .We were going out to the store
> one evening when the lights began to dim leaving me to
> think my alternator belt broke, we headed back home, popped
> the hood to find that something made a nest that looked
> like a bird nest kinda but included the hood insulation.I
> began to clear the debree out from under the hood( engine
> running) and i leaned in to clear some more out with my
> right elbow resting on the front of the metal (in front of
> radiator) .All of a sudden i got the shock from hell through
> my left hand all the way to my right elbow.After shutting
> the engine off and re-cooperating from the shock i found
> that the critter had chewed through the coil wire insulation
> leaving the wire itself exposed but hidden under the nesting
> material (they booby trapped me!) .Talk about a shocking
> experience! The funny thing is i
>  drive the vehicle daily ,its not like the vehicle had been
> sitting for an extended period of time.They sure do work
> fast.Another weird thing is that my alternator failed right
> at that same exact time.
>  
> Have a great day ~ J. Scott 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Dennis Hammerl <blues...@yahoo.com>
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 12:26:33 AM
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 Nighthawk 700s K&N
> Air filter
> 
> 
> Actually, cleaning out a mess like that is a hazard. One of
> the fools that works in the PE division opened up a fan
> shroud on a riding mower and used an air gun to blow it
> off... three days in the hospital from the respiratory
> infection. Finding dead critters is fun too. Stuff stored in
> outside sheds are prone to this.. bikes too.   
> 
> --- On Wed, 4/1/09, jeff scott <scott6...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> From: jeff scott <scott6...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 Nighthawk 700s K&N
> Air filter
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 12:16 AM
> 
> 
> corn? maybe the critters were getting ready to put it on
> the exhaust pipes after a ride to make popcorn!
>  
> Have a great day ~ J. Scott 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Dennis Hammerl <blues...@yahoo.com>
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:46:45 PM
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 Nighthawk 700s K&N
> Air filter
> 
> 
> Sounds like a critter moved in... happens a lot. I opened
> up a Wing air box once that was full of corn...
> K&N's are pricey, shop around.
> 
> --- On Mon, 3/30/09, jeff scott <scott6...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> From: jeff scott <scott6...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 Nighthawk 700s K&N
> Air filter
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 11:51 PM
> 
> 
> Ahh ok, i guess i better buy a new one for my bike then
> because i took it out to inspect it and there was leaves and
> a bunch of other debree in it ( the big stuff all came out
> with tapping on it and pulling it out by hand but its not
> 100% clean)I read about people putting K&N filters
> oninstead of the OEM filters , are they alot better ? do
> they make them for the NH 650 ?where would the cheapest
> place to get them be? we are on VERY limited (next to none)
> income is why i ask that
>  
> Have a great day ~ J. Scott 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Dennis Hammerl <blues...@yahoo.com>
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:42:23 PM
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 Nighthawk 700s K&N
> Air filter
> 
> 
> If you can't see light through it, replace it. Just
> like any car filter. Cleanable ? no. 
> 
> --- On Mon, 3/30/09, jeff scott <scott6...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> From: jeff scott <scott6...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 Nighthawk 700s K&N
> Air filter
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 11:39 PM
> 
> 
> How often do the original type (U shaped) filters have to
> be changed or are they cleanable.. and if cleanable how?Also
> i have a couple pics of the '85 NH i bought and would
> like to have them put on the group home page... how do i get
> them put on there?
>  
> Have a great day ~ J. Scott groups home page... how do 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Dennis Hammerl <blues...@yahoo.com>
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:16:55 PM
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 Nighthawk 700s K&N
> Air filter
> 
> 
> No, at first. It becomes an asset later. The K&N is
> cone shaped and installed, the small end is down. That
> should make you wonder. 
> FYI: the original is a paper pleated that is "U"
> shaped. 
> 
> --- On Mon, 3/30/09, stanley/ Randolph
> <tinkrm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> From: stanley/ Randolph <tinkrm...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 Nighthawk 700s K&N
> Air filter
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 3:09 PM
> 
> 
> Dennis,
> Your question piqued my curiosity.  Does the shape of the
> filter make a difference in the performance?
>  
> Stanley
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Snookfever <snookfev...@comcast.net>
> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
> <nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 2:55:57 PM
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 Nighthawk 700s K&N
> Air filter
> 
> 
> Just reread (destructions) I was supposed to put snokel
> back on and
> was not!!! Rain stopped!  WIll do it right abd get back to
> you.
> Thanks again for your patience...
> 
> On Mar 28, 12:07 am, Dennis Hammerl
> <blues...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Find anything in the slow jets ? How about the brass
> tubes above the mains ? At 3~4K you start to depend on the
> next circuits to supply fuel. Since these have enricheners
> and not chokes, you can add some choke to make it run
> richer. Now if that helps, increase the main jets to 120.
> You don't specify if the stumble is just that or it is
> popping. ?? A pop is a good indication of lean. If it truly
> is that lean, you could'nt get it to go above 5k at all.
> Getting it up there slowly means to me (IMHO) that the air
> speed is too slow to pick off fuel. That's where the
> choke addition comes in. If that makes it worse, let me
> know. A high air flow filter actually causes a slowing of
> the flow. Untill they repeal the laws of physics (Obama just
> might) high speed air works best. You do have the lid on the
> air box ? With the snorkle ? I hope so. A complete air box
> is vital.
> > One more thing, is this K&N cone shaped ?
> >
> > --- On Fri, 3/27/09, Snookfever
> <snookfev...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > From: Snookfever <snookfev...@comcast.net>
> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 Nighthawk 700s
> K&N Air filter
> > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!"
> <nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com>
> > Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 12:56 PM
> >
> > Ok, I wired the slow jets,put the K&N air filter
> in. I found some
> > particles in the bottom of the carbs so I added an in
> line fuel
> > filter.
> >
> > It ran fine at idle. Take off was ok. When you open
> the throttle from
> > 3k to 4K it sputtered, could not get to 5 K and beyond
> without very
> > gradual throttle turn.
> >
> > Plug Test:
> >
> > Cleaned number 1 and 4 plug and replaced.  Both were
> brown on one side
> > and white on the other
> >
> > Pulled plugs after 1 mile ride and no real color
> change from cleaned
> > look.
> >
> > What now?
> >
> > Glen
> >
> > On Mar 22, 6:38 pm, Dennis Hammerl
> <blues...@yahoo.com> wrote:> If you can't pass
> a wire through it, it isn't clean. That's
> >
> > what I mean. The wire size is .0011" for a #35
> slow jet. I don't care
> > if you can blow through it, see through it,etc. If a
> .0011" wire
> > doesn't pass through it, NG.> If you want it to
> work with a K&N, test that way.
> >
> > > --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Snookfever
> <snookfev...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > From: Snookfever <snookfev...@comcast.net>
> > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984 Nighthawk
> 700s K&N Air filter
> > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!"
> >
> > <nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com>> Date:
> Sunday, March 22, 2009, 2:19 AM
> >
> > > What do you mean by did I wire out the slow jet?
>  I soked them in
> > > acetone and blew them out with compressed air. I
> pulled  number 4 plug
> > > it was light tan on the insulation with some
> black on the threads.
> > > Should I run the plug test with the stock filter
> or the K&N?
> >
> > > On Mar 21, 3:03 pm, Dennis Hammerl
> <blues...@yahoo.com> wrote:>
> >
> > Did you wire out the slow jet ? And yes, I have a
> method of enriching a
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > K&N filter. I have one in one of my 700s and
> it required no changes
> > but I
> > > did a neat stunt and gave it more bottom end. My
> 700s pulls hard from 2K
> > up.
> > > Made huge difference for me. I granny around a
> lot and spend too much time
> > in
> > > traffic. Less shifting now. To understand it, you
> need to grasp air flow
> > > dynamics. The British did some good research on
> it back in the 50's.
> > Get it
> > > to work right first.
> >
> > > > --- On Sat, 3/21/09, Snookfever
> <snookfev...@comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> > > > From: Snookfever
> <snookfev...@comcast.net>
> > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984
> Nighthawk 700s K&N Air
> > filter
> > > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!"
> >
> > > <nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com>
> >
> > > > Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 9:57 AM
> >
> > > > I am very meticulous so I completely tore
> down the carbs and cleaned
> > > > evey single part individually including
> pilot, needle,main jets,
> > > > choke, every part.  I was careful to put
> the same part back in the
> > > > same carbs.  I also disasembled and cleaned
> the petcock and screen.
> > I
> > > > blew every part dry with compressed air, I
> replaced O-rings and
> > > > reasembled. The factory air filter is
> relatively new.
> >
> > > > I installed the K&N as instructed and
> removed the snorkel flipped
> > the
> > > > lid and installed. With the factory air box
> it idles perfect, but
> > does
> > > > hesitate just a little at take off.  I will
> perform the spark plug
> > > > check and get back to you, but when I pulled
> one they were lite
> > > > colored. Looks like she is running a little
> lean.  If that is the
> > case
> > > > what do you do to enrich?
> >
> > > > Thanks for the help
> >
> > > > On Mar 20, 12:55 am, Dennis Hammerl
> <blues...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:>
> >
> > > Above 5k it runs mostly on the mains. I expected
> you to say right off idle
> >
> > > > when pulling out. If you really cleaned the
> carbs, how ?> Now to
> > do a
> >
> > > defined search for your problem. Ride the bike at
> the problem
> >
> > > > RPM for several minutes.put up with all
> it's actions. Ride it for
> > at
> > > least a
> > > > half mile that way. Pull the clutch and shut
> it down with the kill
> > switch.
> > > Pull
> > > > over and remove some plugs. White ? brown ?,
> black ?> Take a
> > picture
> >
> > > and forward. A plug reading, done right will
> indicate the
> >
> > > > nature of the problem.> From what you
> tell me about the tank rust
> >
> > > problem, I suspect the supply is
> >
> > > > poor to the carbs. The original air filter
> (especially if it was
> > somewhat
> > > dirty)
> > > > would be a compliment to a poor delivery
> system. The K&N, passing
> > more
> > > air,
> > > > would not. In other words.. lean, white
> plugs. Main jets are not
> > likely to
> > > ever
> > > > clog, but with an inadequate fuel supply the
> condition you describe
> > would
> > > be
> > > > expected.> One last point for this post,
> are you installing the
> > K&N
> > > with the
> >
> > > > air-box lid ? Very tempting to do. It sounds
> neat, but runs poorly. 
> >
> > > > > --- On Thu, 3/19/09, Snookfever
> <snookfev...@comcast.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > From: Snookfever
> <snookfev...@comcast.net>
> > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1984
> Nighthawk 700s K&N Air
> > > filter
> > > > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle
> Lovers!"
> >
> > > > <nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com>
> >
> > > > > Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 1:13 AM
> >
> > > > > Dennis,
> >
> > > > > Withe the K&N It is not
> responsive,bogs down when
> > accelerating.
> > >  I do
> > > > > not remember the exact RPM range, but I
> think above 5K so maybe
> > > > > midrange.  I discovered rust in the
> fuel tank (fuel on pant
> > leg) a
> > > few
> > > > > week after I got the bike.  The carbs
> looked like they were
> > painted
> > > > > red with the rust particles.  I redid
> the tank with KBS
> > coatings and
> > > > > did a complete carb breakdown and
> cleaning and the carbs looked
> > > great.
> > > > > I sinked the butterflies manually with
> the stem of a micrometer
> > and
> > > it
> > > > > ran great.
> >
> > > > > With the OEM filter It does take a few
> minutes to warm up or it
> > will
> > > > > want to die at take off. I have a shop
> manual and reset the
> > pilots
> > > the
> > > > > same number of turn as they were set
> from the factory.
> >
> > > > > On Mar 19, 12:27 am, Dennis Hammerl
> <blues...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:>
> >
> > > > If you can describe what crap runs like,
> maybe I can help. By
> > themselves,
> >
> > > > > K&N filters do not affect anything.
> Great replacements
> > (sorry
> > > Stanley)
> > > > > Installed properly, they require no
> rejetting. Mine works fine.
> >
> > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Snookfever
> >
> > <snookfev...@comcast.net>
> >
> >
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > From: Snookfever
> <snookfev...@comcast.net>
> > > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1984
> Nighthawk 700s K&N Air
> > > filter
> > > > > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle
> Lovers!"
> >
> > > > >
> <nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com>
> >
> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009,
> 11:14 PM
> >
> > > > > > I bought a K&N air filter, but
> it makes the bike run
> > like
> > > crap.
> > > > What
> > > > > > do I need to do the carbs?
> >
> > > > > > Looking for a nose cone for my
> 700S, where can I find one?
> >
> > > > > > Sincerely,
> >
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