That makes no sense at all. A #38 is larger than a #35 and .005 is correct for #35. Did you mike those wires ? I have the original E-mail that you said the tire was off 3/8"
________________________________ From: Glen <[email protected]> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 6:38:00 PM Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further Dennis: Previously the edge of the wheel was say 1/4 from the right side and about 5/8 from the left of the edge of the rear tire. Now the the front wheel is shoved over to the right so its zero off the right and about 3/4 off the left side. It would appear as though I mooved it 1/4 in the wrong direction. I under stand instruction and will proceed slowly. While I had the bike appart. I took the carbs off to re=wire the factory #35 Klein slow jets per your corrected bore size from 0.0011 to 0.0050. While doing so I broke a wire in a jet and so I ordered new ones the next size up #38. I can not pass a 0.0025 wire through the brand new Klein # 38 slow jest much less a 0.0050. I think you had it right the first time at 0.0011???? Glen On Jan 31, 2:21 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > You mean that the front wheel is not centered between the parallel lines from > the rear wheel by 3/4" ? That's much worse than the 3/8" you started with. > Loosen the axle caps and fork clamp bolts. Leave the caps finger tight so > they can move about. You'll have to support the bike under the frame since it > will fall down the tubes with the clamps loose. Using both hands, twist the > fork tubes (both, at the same time) in their clamps and observe if the wheel > moves. (this does require a helper) Unless I have it wrong, the wheel should > move it's center line and come into alignment. (equal spacing on both sides) > Stop and recheck for alignment in both planes. (vertical and inline with > rear) Max allowable is 1/8" off. Be careful, go slow. Once you see what is > happening, it'll come easy to you to make adjustments. Don't get frustrated, > the front end of a 700 can be manipulated like no others. Still have the > calipers off ? Leave 'em off for now. > > ________________________________ > From: Glen <[email protected]> > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, January 31, 2010 11:59:39 AM > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > Dennis: > > Off the stand. Wheel is ok 90 dreees to the floor. Off center with > rear. Lines up on right side but off on left side by 3/4 inch or so. > > What next? > > Glen > > On Jan 30, 5:01 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Everything stayed straight ? Still in perfect alignment with the back wheel > > ? How about in parallel with the rear wheel as in earlier testing ? (that's > > the second plane) Confirm both planes before we proceed. 90 degrees to > > floor and less than 1/8" off center from rear wheel. That's as good as it > > gets. > > > ________________________________ > > From: Glen <[email protected]> > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 4:28:00 PM > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > Dennis: > > > All tight all right. What Next? > > > Glen > > > On Jan 28, 11:41 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Start by tightening the axle clamps. Front nuts first, then rear ones. > > > Recheck alignment. Position tubes in fork bridge clamps (so much above > > > top bridge) and tighten clamps. Recheck alignment. Install fender and > > > fork brace and recheck alignment. That reason behind this all is to see > > > if at any time it shifts. Constant rechecking after each step will show > > > the exact component that is at fault. If it doesn't move and stays right, > > > all the better. Leave the brake calipers off for now. Get back to me when > > > this is completed. Brake set-up is a bit more precise. If it moves as any > > > clamp is tightened, note which one and report in. > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Glen <[email protected]> > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Thu, January 28, 2010 7:36:58 PM > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > Dennis: > > > > Its perfect! I tripple checked it with a square on each side both > > > front and rear. Its right on! > > > > Whats next? > > > > On Jan 27, 11:41 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > You didn't say you had the tubes off. Start at the common 3/8" > > > > position. We'll attend to those little details later. When you let the > > > > bike settle on the axle, keep the jack/s in place, we'll need them to > > > > support it during alignment. First order of business is to make this > > > > thing as straight as can be. Later is brakes, tube height,,, for now > > > > just the wheel in place. The method is quite simple once you understand > > > > how all this fits together. If it cannot be corrected in this manner, > > > > we look farther. > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 11:05:56 PM > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > > Dennis: > > > > > Bearings seem fine, spacer is present, spedo tangs looks fine and were/ > > > > are aligned. I cleaned out the factory grease in the spedo and > > > > replaced with a quality bearing grease. Japan doesnt make good grease > > > > and they are very skimpy with it. Before setting the wheel to the > > > > forks, shouldn't I set the forks to the bike? How far above the upper > > > > clamp should I set each fork? Left and right the same height? Shop > > > > manual gives no guidence as to fork placement in the clamps and I did > > > > not mark them last year when I replaced the fork seals. > > > > > I fabricated independent adjustable jacks for each side of the bike to > > > > hold the front end off the ground while on the center stand so I could > > > > replace the fork seals last year. However they are not adjustable once > > > > the weight is on them, so I am going to have to wait until I can get > > > > some help to square the rear wheel and lower the forks onto the > > > > wheel. > > > > > Glen. > > > > > On Jan 27, 9:41 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Bearings good ? spacer present ? Speedometer drive tangs in proper > > > > > place ? Reassemble and snug (not torque) axle nut. Bike is on center > > > > > stand.. right ? Use a carpenters square against the back wheel and > > > > > shim one of the center stand feet if need be so that the rear wheel > > > > > is a perfect 90 to the floor. You need this as a reference when > > > > > putting the front end back together. Bike supported by some kind of > > > > > adjustable jack ? Lower front end till it rests on the axle. Leave > > > > > calipers off at this point. Lightly snug the fork bottom clamps > > > > > against the axle. (finger tight) Check for alignment with rear wheel. > > > > > Report back. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 6:21:36 PM > > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > > > Dennis: > > > > > > After an over night soak in blaster and a longer wrench from a > > > > > neighbor I got the axel apart. The axel is straight and all parts are > > > > > present according to my shop manual. > > > > > > What next? > > > > > > Captain Obvious: Yes, I have been using "PB" Blaster and a Heat Gun, > > > > > would have used a torch but I did not want to melt the bearring dust > > > > > covers or plastic gears in the spedo. The problem was leverage... size > > > > > does matter! > > > > > > Glen > > > > > > On Jan 27, 3:21 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I am starting to lose it. > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Kim Paddock <[email protected]> > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 8:35:10 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > > > > Hey Dennis...will you tell this wingnut that he needs to use PB > > > > > > blaster to get his axle nut loose? He listens to you...somewhat. > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 9:36:26 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > > > > I wouldn't reassemble it till I found out why that is. Too many > > > > > > parts in there to disregard. Stepped spacer one side, speedometer > > > > > > drive other side. Two bearings, spacer inside. Axle nut 54' lbs. > > > > > > should be tight but not stuck on unless over tightened. Over > > > > > > tightened would damage bearings and pull fork tubes together. > > > > > > Missing internal spacer would allow nut to be over tightened. > > > > > > Incorrect drive installation would spread forks. Maybe it's fine. > > > > > > The bottom line is, it's your butt. For me, I wanna' know. The tire > > > > > > was the giveaway that something is wrong. Don't quit untill you > > > > > > know and correct it. I can't work this way, my job depends on me > > > > > > doing it right. For me, I'd put a socket on the fixed end bolt head > > > > > > and clamp a breaker bar in a vise, and use the same deal on the nut > > > > > > end. Put a piece of pipe on the bar and...it's coming off. I can't > > > > > > let a customer ride a bike I "think" is OK. It better be right. > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > > > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > > > > > > Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 8:42:32 PM > > > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > > > > Dennis: > > > > > > > I cant get the axel nut loose and I am afraid I am going to break a > > > > > > nuckle or worse something on the bike. The wheel appears to spin > > > > > > true.I think the axel is fine. I would like to proceed with > > > > > > reassembly. Please advise. Please note I have replaced the brake > > > > > > pads already. > > > > > > > Glen > > > > > > > On Jan 26, 12:41 am, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Send pix as attachments. The wear you describe is not right. Pads > > > > > > > should wear evenly. Wheel is cocked to do this. Your measurements > > > > > > > showed this too. That would cause the contact patch to be > > > > > > > off-center. A careful re-assembly is going to take care of this. > > > > > > > Still have to inspect the axle and get that right first. Gee, > > > > > > > this bike will be totally different when you get done. Handle and > > > > > > > brake better. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > > > > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 12:29:33 AM > > > > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > > > > > Dennis; > > > > > > > > I do not know how to post a picture to an existing string. The > > > > > > > pads > > > > > > > are worn as if on a skew. One pads is thinner at the top then it > > > > > > > is at > > > > > > > the bottom and the other pad is the opposite thicker on the top > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > on the bottom. Wheel spin was relative to axel in hand. When in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > forks without brakes wheel spins smooth and easy. 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