my buddys driven hard 88 shadow 600 got tons of complements from the HD crowd, and even more from the ladies...
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:23 AM, stanley/ Randolph <tinkrm...@yahoo.com>wrote: > Way back when I had one of the first Honda step-thru 50s, I was down on > Harleys because they tried to compete with Honda's small bikes by importing > Italian made ones. They weren't the good ones either, and IMHO they would > have been better off importing Huskys or Derbys, made in Spain. > I have a 750 Shadow, my daily ride, which gets a steady 53 - 57 mpg in > town, depending on how hard I twist the throttle. It looks so close to new > it's difficult to tell it's an '03 ACE. Even guys on Harleys comment on > how beautiful the bike is, all black and chrome. > I pulled up to a brand new HOG at a stop light a few days ago and it > looked good, but its rear end, hard saddle bags and all, shook like a gal > shakin her booty. I looked at the engine, and it was thrashing worse! It > looked like it could drop to the ground any moment. > I held my tongue and quietly took off when the light turned. I could not > hear my exhaust over noise of his loud pipes, and I was accelerating harder > than he was. > Well, his woman was on the back... > When I was younger I did like and respect the *older* Harleys, admiring > their craftmanship. > But today, there is no reason why a Hog should cost so much when a > comparable Shadow only costs $11,000 and up, especially when so many of the > parts are made elsewhere. > Mine was only $3,600. I have the records of maintenance from Honda and > it's only had routine maintenance subce new and now has 42,000 trouble - > free miles. - Except for one flat rear tire, at which time I replaced the > drive cushions as well. > > > ** > > *From:* Joey Kelley <sandp...@gmail.com> > *To:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:07 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Harley: Made is USA? Nope.............. > You guess! > > A long time ago (not in a Galaxy Far away) I wrote in a piece to an > 'all Harley' publication called the Thunder Press. Its a good monthly > paper and if they haven't changed it, you can pick them up for free at > your local friendly HD dealer. > At the time I was drooling over various HDs (still do in > some respects) but being a teenager I was both opinionated and > appreciative of the design work that goes into a finely tuned machine. > (Aka, Anything Japanese) I was standing in a dealer here in Maine - > and I had the following experience which I sent to the Thunder Press - > sorry but I don't have the original e-mail and I have no idea when > this was printed. > While looking at the Honda RC51 - the street version of the > liter bike that had won the previous years 1000 cc international > racing championship (sorry - forget which series it was) a 'grizzly > old biker' went by on his way to the parts counter (ironically you had > to go through the Honda section to get to the parts counter) and he > hissed 'RICE' at me. > Now I understand that the battle between the HD and the > Japanese bike fans is old and epic - but - when you realize that the > Harley Davidson spark plugs are re-badged NGK plugs - plus all the > other references we've made in this thread - how much of the bike is > really 'All-American' anyway? > I think this is one reason why Indian took hold and why > Victory has such a loyal following - better bikes - better price tag - > still made just as much in the US as HD. > Just my thoughts! > -Joey > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Hanghank <hangh...@new.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > > http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_japanese_parts_on_a_harley > > > > How many Japanese parts on a harley? > > > > In: Harley-Davidson Motorcycles [Edit categories] > > Answer: > > Suspension: Front forks and shocks are made by Showa, a company owned by > > Honda. HD has been using Japanese parts since 1972! > > > > Electrical system: Starter, alternator, wiring harness, gauges, handle > bar > > switches are made by Nippon Denso (ND) > > > > Brakes: Calipers and master cylinders are Nissin. > > > > Carburetors are made by Keihin, another Honda owned company. > > > > So if your Harley stops, goes, or lights up at night thank the > Japanese... > > > > > > From: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110406181942AAbB1GM > > > > > > Best Answer - Chosen by Voters > > > > In all honesty, about 60%. > > > > Pistons, Austria > > Forks, Japan > > Wiring harness, Mexico > > Various, electrical components, Mexico and China > > Some brake components, Italy > > Evolution, Twin Cam and V-Rod engines designed by engineers from HD and > > Porsche.... > > just to name a few > > > > Source(s): > > > > Master Tech and Engine Builder > > > > 1 year ago > > > > > > > > Other Answers (5) > > > > > > > > bonehead > > It depends on the model and the year. The harley salesman used to say its > > 100% American parts. But that was when they referred to the American > > Continent, therefore it included Mexico and Canada and South American > > sources. Now they say it's 100% American meaning that the final assembly > > point is always Wisconsin but the source of the parts is no longer > important > > because they come from all around the world including China (both Taiwan > and > > Mainland China). The exact percentage of foreign sourced components is > > unclear, however, the largest foreign source nation of Harley components > is > > Japan. This is comforting to HOG members because Japan builds very high > > quality Harley components. > > > > 1 year ago > > > > Scooter > > Well now that depends on how you look at it. If you go part by part, it's > > maybe15 or 20 percent. Now if you talking about assembled parts, that > will > > be much higher, that 60% would be closer. There are a lot, of raw parts > made > > in the U.S. Shipped outside, assembled, then shipped back, to be > assembled > > into a motorcycle. Major parts of the frame, motor, trans. and body, are > > made in the U.S. > > > > A finish part may say on the box, that it was made in China. But that > does > > not mean, it started out there. > > > > Source(s): > > > > Drove a truck, for a Subcontractor of Harley. > > > > 1 year ago > > > > Andy > > It used to be about 20%.But given how America has sold it's soul to China > > there's no telling now. > > Edit I just saw the 60% answer from Harleyfixer.I had no idea it was that > > high these days.I guess if you bought all the made in China junk > accessories > > they make to bolt onto a bike you could get that percentage up to about > > 85....sooooooooo sad. > > > > Edited 1 year ago > > > > bluff mike > > It was nearly sixty percent in the 1990s. Since they started outsourcing > to > > China, there's no telling. > > > > 1 year ago > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Allen Thomas > > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 7:24 PM > > To: Nightwawk Lovers > > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Sick and tired! > > > > Better yet point out the Japanese forks, brakes, shocks, and carbs on > their > > bikes. Also I think the evo engines are built in Korea. They just > assemble > > them in America to my knowledge. > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > ________________________________ > > From: nighthawkin <gswannab...@gmail.com> > > Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > > Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 20:22:03 -0400 > > To: <nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com> > > ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Sick and tired! > > > > tell them they were made in america? > > > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Allen Thomas <althomas...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Amen brother Kurt! > >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Kurt Nolte <vturbine.po...@gmail.com> > >> Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > >> Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 20:10:44 -0400 > >> To: <nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com> > >> ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > >> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Sick and tired! > >> > >> Perhaps we can turn this into a sort of "sick and tired" email chain to > >> concentrate gripes? 'cause I have one... that I'm truly sick and tired > of. > >> Loud effing pipes. > >> > >> I hate them. I hate them, hate them, hate them. I want to go Chuck > Norris > >> on whoever first thought up the notion of "loud pipes save lives." I'd > love > >> to go Jackie Chan on the salesnakes that perpetuate the notion to drive > pipe > >> sales. and I'm SICK AND TIRED of the neighbor's earsplitter Harley > waking me > >> up early in the morning! > >> > >> -Kurt > >> > >> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Bill Sandifer <wordzen...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Man, that is distressing. It's seems to go along with an increasingly > >>> troubling undercurrent of nationalism that excludes things perceived as > >>> un-American, that is, outside a very narrow mainstream. I can really > >>> sympathize. Hang in there. 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