Pavel,
Did you test the run time with double the records?
I would expect that the MDV=1 records would be largely ignored in the estimation step and not contribute much to run time.
Nick

On 21-Nov-15 08:59, Pavel Belo wrote:
Thank you Bill,
In my case it exactly doubles the number of records... The records are daily measures and the code is running slow enough. I'll split the code into estimation part and one that that is redundant, but uses a larger file and creates an output. It will be something like
$EST MAXEVALS=9999 SIG=3 NOABORT PRINT=1 SORT CONSTRAIN=5
  METHOD=SAEM NBURN=0 NITER=0 POSTHOC INTERACTION
  LAPLACIAN GRD=TG(1-7):TS(8-9) CTYPE=3 CINTERVAL=10
I guess the best future way is modify something in NONMEM so there is an option to provide only PRED in the PRED column (version 7.4?).
Thanks!
Pavel
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 01:06 PM, Denney, William S. wrote:

    Hi Pavel,

    The easiest way that I know is to generate your data file with one
    set of rows for estimation with M3 and another row just above or
    below with MDV=1.  NONMEM will then provide PRED and IPRED in the
    rows with MDV=1.

    Thanks,

    Bill

    *From:*owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com
    [mailto:owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com] *On Behalf Of *Pavel Belo
    *Sent:* Friday, November 20, 2015 11:47 AM
    *To:* nmusers@globomaxnm.com
    *Subject:* [NMusers] PRED for BLQ-like observations

    Hello The NONMEM Users,

    When we use M3-like approach, the outputs has PRED for non-missing
    observations and something else for BLQ (is that PRED=CUMD?).  As
    in the diagnostic figures PRED for BLQs looks like noise, I remove
    them.  It is not always perfect, but OK in for most frequent cases.

    When we use count data such as a scale with few possible values
    (for example,  0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5), it makes more sense to use PHI
    function (home-made likelihood) for all observations rather than
    to treat the count as a continuous variable an apply M3-like
    approach to 1 and 5 while only (as we know, they are like LLOQ and
    ULOQ).  In this case, all PRED values look like noise.  A hard way
    to replace the noise with PRED value is to simulate PRED for each
    point and merge them with the DV and IPRED data. Is there an easy
    way?

    (The model runs well and better than when the count is treated as
    a continuous variable.)

    Thanks!

    Pavel


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