Thanks for the heads-up on lisaloqt, I'll give it a whirl sometime.  I use
some SFZ's but I also use gigasampler pianos from Sampletekk and so will
still need linuxsampler.  I've suggested to Sampletekk they offer SFZ's but
instead they are moving to Kontakt.


On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 12:13 PM, J. Liles <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Edward Diehl <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> If you want to use gigasampler or SFZ there is no substitution for
>> linuxsampler.   I know there is something called "calfbox" but that seems
>> to be in an early stage of development, and I'm not sure if it involves
>> using linuxsampler or not.
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>> My current practice with linuxsampler and NSW is to use Ardour3 as the
>> lv2 host along with NSM-session manager.   Ardour3 does have NSM-session
>> support.   I think this set up has a lot of attractive features, though, it
>> does not work entirely flawlessly at present.   What is attractive is that
>> by hosting linuxsampler (or other lv2 instruments) is that the you can
>> easily add other effect plugins to the tracks and can set up other busses,
>> like a reverb bus, and the entire setup is saved.  I use this setup for
>> live play, and route my keyboard to a lv2 tracks in Ardour, and can easily
>> switch instruments through the midi enable button on each track in Ardour3.
>>    Also, you can turn off effects very easily via their enable/disable
>> buttons in Ardour3.  You can do a lot just within Ardour and only need NSM
>> if you want to use other apps, which I do.
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>> As far as I can see using Ardour3 offers a lot of convenience which I
>> have not found in other types of setup.   You could also use qtractor as a
>> lv2 host but it is more work to set up the midi routing, and there is no
>> way to disable midi input on tracks like Ardour3.      Or I could run
>> instruments as standalone and use NSM mixer, but NSM mixer only supports
>> Ladspa plugins, and there is no way to disable instruments easily, except
>> by muting, which is not a good method because you still use CPU when muted,
>> whereas in Ardour you can disable the midi input, so CPU is not used if an
>> instrument is disabled.
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>> As for the shortfalls of this Ardour3 approach - Ardour3 is bit complex
>> and requires more system resources, but if you have recent hardware I think
>> it is not bad, and I am able to run stably at 4 ms (roundtrip) latency.
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>> Ardour3 + NSM + linuxsampler does not always work perfectly together but
>> I'm not sure where the problem lies.
>> Frequently, Ardour3, when started by NSM, claims to be recovering from a
>> crash even though I saved the Ardour3 sessions before terminating the
>> previous NSM session.
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>> Another issue is that Ardour3 seems to have problems crashing when using
>> more than about 5-6 linuxsampler tracks.   I use a modified linuxsampler
>> lv2 plugin which on has 2 output channels, rather than the default 32.   So
>> it would appear that there is some issue between Ardour3 and linuxsampler
>> when the track count is too high.   Possibly this is related to me loading
>> some large samples (I use 2  6 GB piano samples), though my memory usage
>> does not seem maxed out, but this has nothing to do with NSM session.
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> Ha. I strongly suggest you try lisaloqt. It does not involve LinuxSampler
> in any way. Also, if you need a stand alone LV2 host, try Carla, it's quite
> a bit more stable and lighter weight than Ardour, and it also supports NSM.
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