These people were released, and were not part of the plot.
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From: Robert Saylors [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:54 PM
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Eight arrested at New York airports
September 14, 2001 Posted: 2:48 AM EDT (0648 GMT)
NEW YORK (CNN) -- Heightened security measures at major airports may have
been responsible for thwarting another hijacking in New York on Thursday,
one U.S. official told CNN.
At least eight people were arrested Thursday at John F. Kennedy and
LaGuardia airports, law enforcement sources said, including four who
previously were challenged at one of the airports on Tuesday, the day
terrorists commandeered four other planes.
The suspects were booked as passengers on flights from Kennedy or LaGuardia
airports on Thursday, the sources said. At Kennedy, one suspect was removed
from a plane and two others -- including a man with a phony pilot's license
-- were taken into custody at a pilot's lounge.
Asked if this was seen as another hijacking attempt, one U.S. official said,
"Certainly, this is being looked at -- that a hijacking was thwarted. There
is concern in our office that this may have been another attempt."
The suspects were taken into custody for carrying fake documentation --
including the one man carrying the fake pilot's license -- and immigration
issues, the sources said.
All had booked open-ended tickets, meaning there was no return date --
"raising a red flag" on a day of heightened airport security, one source
said.
The eight were being questioned by FBI members of the Joint Terrorism Task
Force.
The sources did not specify what immigration offenses may have been involved
in the arrests.
Kennedy, LaGuardia and Newark airports were all shut down late Thursday as
part of a security groundstop. The temporary groundstop at the three
airports was imposed around 5:30 p.m. Incoming flights were allowed to land,
but takeoffs were halted.
A spokesman for the Federal Aviation Administration said there had been far
fewer flights than normal before the three airports were shut down on
Thursday.
The FAA announced that Washington's Reagan National Airport will remain
closed "for the time being."
This decision was made "due to the airport's proximity to key federal
installations in the Washington, D.C., area including the Pentagon," one of
the targets of the hijackers.
Northwest Airlines grounded all its flights nationwide because "external
information has come to Northwest's attention that indicates that it is not
prudent to fly this evening." The airline is resuming flights Friday.
The arrest of the man posing as a pilot was announced earlier by New York
Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik.
That man was stopped as he tried to clear security at JFK when he was found
to be carrying false identification, Kerik said.
"He had identification indicating he was a pilot. He attempted to clear
security. He was stopped. The identification he had was indeed false," Kerik
said.
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Robert Saylors
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chinnery Paul
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:05 PM
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Not true; no evidence that it happened. Just another case of misinformation.
The same with the 10 arrested yesterday. They've been released and police
report that those 10 had no connection whatsoever with the terrorists.
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From: Robert Saylors [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:46 PM
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come on people wake up!!! with all the heightened "security" they still
boarded the planes yesterday at JFK with knifes
Thank you,
Robert Saylors
Technical Services Manager
The FoxBerry Group
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pombo, Tony J
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:39 PM
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Craig is correct. The analogy may not be perfect, but the point is. In
this country, we sacrifice safety/security for convenience. If we strip
searched everyone and everything that got near an airplane, it would be
nearly impossible to sneak something on. But that's not convenient. This
will change though - no curb check in, only passengers allowed in the
terminals, no carry on luggage, no pick-up/drop-off at ticketing, etc. These
are losses of convenience that Americans are willing to make right now. I
think that airports are going to start looking like a scene out of Lebanon.
____________________________________
Tony Pombo - Sr. Systems Architect
International Truck and Engine Corp.
CME Truck Manufacturing Group
2280 Industrial Drive, Sidney, OH 45365
Phone 937-493-2577, Fax 937-493-2680
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Saylors [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:17 PM
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I fail to follow your analogy, there is no such thing as "secure"
Thank you,
Robert Saylors
Technical Services Manager
The FoxBerry Group
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Craig Manske
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 1:57 PM
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Subject: Americans confuse me / NT Security.
I sit here, watch TV, and see people everywhere asking, "How could this
happen in America to Americans." Then I see my users bitching because they
have to use an 8 character password with number and letters. Don't they
know it's that kind of thinking that brought down those buildings? When
will people learn that they cannot be secure without inconvienance?
When someone complains about complex passwords tell them, "That's the kind
of thinking that causes airplanes to crash into buildings!"
--
Craig Manske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
IS Manager
Stanek Tool Corp. <http://www.stanektool.com>
New Berlin, WI
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