On 13-5-2010 3:42, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
\startyoumayignorethis
The only thing that really bothers me are so much different vertical
differences which show up in almost every document I ever write. MKIV
consistently takes more vertical space, so no matter what document I
try to recompile, it always ends up with more pages (and some weird
page breaks) when processing it with MKIV.
\startcantresistmode
the lineheight relates to the ex height and as in mkiv we don't have the
tfm limitations (those 16 values of ht dp) we have slightly different
spacing
\stopcantresistmode
Yes, I know. The two are incompatible. Yes, I know. Different fonts
are being used. Yes, I know. Different algorithms/aproaches to break
pages. But it would be soooooo nice if the most basic documents with
LM fonts could turn out at least approximately the same. Horizontal
breaking works perfectly (it's identical). It's only vertical spacing
that's a tiny bit "problematic" and makes every recompiled document a
bit messy.
\startchallengingmode
well, you can try to figure out what 2.8ex in mkii and mkiv is and then
have your own defaults for mkiv
\stopchallengingmode
It might be nice to look a bit closer to the topic, like in the
example that I pointed out. There are some weirdnesses left, like the
equations that starts at least a line lower in MKIV when there's no
real reason for such a behaviour.
\startexplanation
TeX tries hard to inject a baselineskip and also an empty hlist so that
one always gets that line. In MkII I compensated for that hard to beat
automatism. In MkIV this does not happen. We figured out that when we
add a \noindent before $$ that we don't get this side effect so that now
happens in the latest beta.
\stopexplanation
\stopyoumayignorethis
Thanks a lot. (Just wandering - should stopper be a synonym for
numberstopper in MKIV then or is stopper also used somewhere else?)
the more synonyme the more documentation
Did you try to run that with MKII? MKIV works fine (I know that the
title was a bit misleading). I get the characters from font that are
equal to the second byte of UTF-8 representation of input character.
you probably need to enable utf8 in the mp environment then
Thanks. I'm sorry that I didn't simplify that one (I just took a
random equation out of a document since it looked nicer).
random thesis ... interesting
9.) Note the big difference of when the formula starts vertically on page:
\starttext
\startformula
a+b
\stopformula
\stoptext
interesting, i need to look into that
Thanks :)
same problem as previous
What can I do?
make a complete test as small as possible
Does anyone else have an idea of whether \cite[a,b,c] should generate
[1,2,3] or [1-3]? I have an article at hand that has "[1], [2], [3]"
instead to be honest. I'm not sure, but [1-3] somehow doesn't appear
right to me. I have a feeling that each bib item needs to be cited
separately, but I may be wrong.
collapsing has always been there afaik
Hans
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