There are a couple towns not far from me where they are celebrating in the
streets over the incident.
I know this is the greatest country to live in. Where else could you see
thousands of people die and hold a rally without being arrested.

The simple fact is there are individuals in our country who are here to reap
the benefits and give nothing back. If it were not true, they would not work
so hard to get here.

I feel that if you do not want to contribute you should leave.
And that goes for anyone no matter who you are.

Forgive me for being so blunt......

David


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jang Man" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:37 AM
Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack


That's true. Americans have saved our european butt many times, most notably
in WWI and WWII. And deserve all credits for that. And deserve all help they
need from rest of us.

It's not simply black and white world with good and bad guys. And I also
agree with Kevin's observations in his Perspective of events thread. Power
and strenght has been misused many times. Many people see USA as evil empire
which is responsible for world injustice and exploatation. But America
didn't invent current monetary and economic system. America is just taking
advatage of this system to it's fullest potential and this is called
bussiness. So many people don't think there is something wrong, because they
are just doing bussiness.

It's rooted in 18th century and was established by British empire while it
was dominant force in the world. One of Rotschilds said at that time
something like "I don't care who is in power as long as I controll the
bank". He, who issues the money, has all the power over the rest, by
controlling interest rate and value of money.

One economist predicted WWII in year 1918, just after end of WWI. Greater ad
more devastating war will occure in less than 25 years if we don't radically
change current monetary system. And it happend in less than 25 years.
It's a flaw by design. It's like house made of playing cards. We can't make
this world better place to live while based on current economic foundations.
There will always be huge differences, rich and poor and struggle and
tensions based on national/religious and other excuses. But basically, it's
economic struggle.

I don't see bright future here. For many years I feel like I am living at
the end of Roman empire and just observing it's inevitable end. I hope I am
mistaken.

jang

-----Original Message-----
From: Bartolini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:15 PM
Posted To: NTSysAdmin
Conversation: NewYork Terrorist Attack
Subject: Re: NewYork Terrorist Attack


This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing.


America: The Good Neighbor.

Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a
remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair,
a Canadian television commentator.
What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as
printed in the Congressional Record:


"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as
the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people
on all the earth.
Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were
lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in
billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts.
None of these countries is today paying even the interest
on its remaining debts to the United States.

When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the
Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted
and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.

When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States
that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities
were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped.

The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars
into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are
writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans.

I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over
the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane.
Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal
the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10?
If so, why don't they fly them?
Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American
Planes?

Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or
woman on the moon?
You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios.
You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles.

You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the
moon-not once, but several times-and safely home again.
You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right
in the store window for everybody to look at.

Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are
here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking
Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home
to spend here.

When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down
through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them.
When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke,
nobody loaned them an old caboose.
Both are still broke.

I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of
other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when
someone else raced to the Americans in trouble?
I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco
earthquake.

Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is
damned tired of hearing them get kicked around.
They will come out of this thing with their flag high.
And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at
the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope
Canada is not one of those."


Stand proud, America!




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