i bet my wife can use that too. thanks!

Bill

Robert LeBlanc wrote:

Oh man thanks for the tip will do!

*From:* Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2011 03:54 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot

Check out the new PowerPivot addin for Excel if you haven't already. It is made for power users like you describe and it is *FAST*

-Jeff Steward

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Robert LeBlanc <robert.lebl...@aanmpc.com <mailto:robert.lebl...@aanmpc.com>> wrote:

I just bought an optiplex990 I7Quad, 16GB Ram, solid state drive, Office 2010 Pro, Win7proX64 for $1820.00 Not bad I figure. For our Exec Director who will be crunching 500,000 row spreadsheets, with pivots, vlookups, if statements galore that end up being about 150MB in xlsb format. Hope it’s enough….really.

*From:* Don Ely [mailto:don....@gmail.com <mailto:don....@gmail.com>]
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2011 03:28 PM


*To:* NT System Admin Issues

*Subject:* Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot

$2500?!?!?!?! Funny, my company didn't pay more than $1000 for my quad core with 8GB of RAM....

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Stefan Jafs <stefan.j...@gmail.com <mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yeah, I guess the carpet business is flat on the floor in this economy.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:08 PM, John Aldrich <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com <mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>> wrote:

    Gee... you got an extra $2500+ or so for all new hardware and
    software? I
    mean, I'd love to have a nice new 64-bit Windows 7 machine with
    Office 2010
    and all that stuff...but unfortunately, I don't have that. I've got a
    3-year-old Optiplex running XP Pro 32-bit. And with the way the
    economy is
    going lately, I don't see me getting an upgraded desktop machine
    any time
    soon.

    From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com
    <mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com>]
    Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:41 PM

    To: NT System Admin Issues

    Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot

    Just a thought...perhaps you need a new workstation if those
    things you've
    listed tax it's resources to the point that you can't do your job
    appropriately.

    But then, given your posts regarding this "problem" today I doubt
    you'll
    understand anything I have to say either. But I feel bad for
    Jonathan whose
    head seems to be swelling.

    He's been walking around paraphrasing "Tombstone" of all things...

    - WJR

    On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 14:32, John Aldrich
    <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com <mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>>
    wrote:
    I *AM* running multiple apps at once. Microsoft LookOut!...err...
    Outlook is
    a bit of a resource hog. My AS/400 terminal client is running now,
    I have a
    VNC session going, I have Chrome running multiple tabs... so,
    yeah... my
    system isn't just sitting here doing nothing.



    From: kz2...@googlemail.com <mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>
    [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com <mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>]
    Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 2:12 PM
    To: NT System Admin Issues

    Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot

    This I don't understand, running of management tools on (sometimes
    dedicated) servers. Why not go the whole hog and run your email
    and internet
    browsing on a server too? If you were using a thin client or a
    drastically
    underpowered PC, then this would make sense, but not if you have a
    decent
    workstation.

    I agree that running lots of consoles creates a headache due to
    startup time
    and occasionally on a resource basis, so what we try to do is
    integrate as
    much stuff as possible into OpsManager, so we don't need to stare
    at a load
    of consoles. Then I can only open consoles as I need to work on
    them. But if
    your PC can't handle running seven or eight applications including
    a few
    management consoles, or if you worry because your machine uses
    lots of its
    memory (even though it is there to be used), then you have a few
    issues that
    need to be resolved.

    Just my 2 penneth worth, ymmv
    Sent from my POS BlackBerry wireless device, which may wipe itself
    at any
    moment
    ________________________________________
    From: Steve Ens <stevey...@gmail.com <mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>>
    Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:04:20 -0500
    To: NT System Admin Issues<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
    <mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
    ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"
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    Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot

    Better on a workstation than on a server is all I can say.
    On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:29 PM, John Aldrich
    <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com
    <mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>> wrote:
    Well, yeah... but I don't choose to load down my workstation with
    a whole
    bunch of management consoles and associated crap. :D


    From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com <mailto:rhw...@gmail.com>]
    Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:23 PM
    To: NT System Admin Issues

    Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot

    Agreed. I can run the VIPRE console on the server but choose to do
    it from
    my desktop machine instead. It's rarely open on the server.


    Roger Wright
    ___
    Dr. Seuss is my favorite rapper! Cat - Hat... sheer genius!

    On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Jonathan Link
    <jonathan.l...@gmail.com <mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>>
    wrote:
    Why on earth have the console running all the time, then?



    On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:14 PM, John Aldrich
    <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com <mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>>
    wrote:
    Nope... it's not the Vipre server that's the problem, it's the
    console.
    Guess I'll just have to live with manually shutting down the
    console if I
    want to reboot the server. It's not that big a deal now that I've
    decided
    not to automatically reboot the server weekly.

    From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com
    <mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com>]
    Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 12:59 PM
    To: NT System Admin Issues
    Subject: RE: Vipre console hangs server on reboot

    how about a "net stop <vipre services>". I can't test right now,
    but that
    seems like it would stop the console too. there's two key vipre
    services,
    by the way. If you can "net stop", there's no reason to taskkill
    ________________________________________
    From: Andrew S. Baker [asbz...@gmail.com <mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>]
    Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:20 AM
    To: NT System Admin Issues

    Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot

    Well, if they (app vendor) offer no programmatic way to shut the
    console
    down, and they (app vendor) are suggesting that you kill the task,
    then your
    only other alternative will be an application that
    programmatically manages
    the dialog boxes. This approach will likely be complicated by the
    state of
    the server (e.g. workstation locked).

    Process killing is rarely fraught with peril...
    ASB
    http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker
    Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…

    On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:44 AM, John Aldrich
    <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com
    <mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>> wrote:
    I suppose there’s no real reason to reboot the server on a
    scheduled basis…
    THAT server has never had any real issues… As for not running the
    Console
    remotely, I really don’t wish to install it on another machine as
    it’s a bit
    of a resource hog. As far as taskkill, I just don’t like killing off a
    process “just because”, and that’s what that seems like to me.



    From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
    <mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>]
    Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:25 AM

    To: NT System Admin Issues

    Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot

    A - Why are you rebooting the server on a scheduled basis?


    B - Why are you not running the Vipre console remotely?

    C - What's wrong with Taskkill (assuming you don't wish to address the
    previous two issues)?
    ASB
    http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker
    Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…
    On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:14 AM, John Aldrich
    <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com
    <mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>> wrote:
    I have to manually shut down Vipre Enterprise Console if I want
    the server
    to come up on a scheduled reboot, otherwise it hangs the server
    and I have
    to manually power-cycle the server to get it to work. I checked
    with Sunbelt
    support and they said there is no way to *programmatically* close the
    console when I reboot the server (scheduled task, so it's
    non-interactive.)
    They suggested using Microsoft's TaskKill. Anyone got any better
    suggestions? Server is Windows 2003R2 standard.
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