Is the dash on your Dodge all cracked to Sh&%. Mine is and I bought a dash mat for it from day one. Apparently a chronic problem with the Dodge RAM's. Mine is a 2000 though so maybe the used better material in your year. -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 09:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot
I have a 9 year old Kia Rio Cinco, and an 8 year old Dodge Ram 1500 - both paid for... Kurt On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 14:43, Jonathan Link <jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have a 5 yo Toyota. > > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Steve Ens <stevey...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I have a three year old Honda... >> >> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:13 PM, John Aldrich >> <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote: >>> >>> Jonathan: >>> As I just typed a few moments ago -- you want a brand new Ferrari, but >>> you >>> know you can't afford the payments. Are you really going to go to the >>> trouble of configuring it just how you want and getting a price quote or >>> are >>> you going to settle for your 3-year-old Honda? Me? I'm settling for the >>> 3-year-old Honda, because at least I can afford that. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:42 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>> >>> Sir, we are all extremely real. >>> If you prick me, do I not bleed? >>> >>> Look, you ask for advice. You get advice. You come up with all kinds of >>> reasons why said advice doesn't work for you. You are very unflexible >>> when >>> it comes to taking advice. Or you aren't able to understand the advice >>> offered. Well, there's always a reason. With everything. And 9 times >>> out >>> of 10 it's behavioral. Meaning you could do something a different way. >>> >>> Even if they say that there is no budget, you could do a lot of work to >>> calculate a budget based on certain assumptions. So, you've got a bunch >>> of >>> 10 year old equipment. How much did you spend reparing it last year. >>> How >>> much would new equipment for 1/3, 1/4 or 1/5 of it cost, and make a plan >>> to >>> replace stuff. It may cost more, but you might be suprised. In any >>> event, >>> it's obvious you haven't even made the effort. >>> >>> It is the lack of effor tthat is irksom to a great many on this list. >>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:31 PM, John Aldrich >>> <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> >>> wrote: >>> The reason I have no idea what a new desktop would cost is that >>> management >>> is NOT going to approve ANYTHING right now, so why even bother looking??? >>> Get real! >>> >>> >>> >>> From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:38 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>> Well that bit didn't shock anyone....except maybe Jonathan who's now >>> wearing >>> cowboy boots and looking for a horse to ride. >>> - WJR >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:20, John Aldrich >>> <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> >>> wrote: >>> That I have no idea what a new, fully-configured 64-bit workstation with >>> Office, a ton of RAM and all the other assorted pieces of software that >>> would have to be rebought would cost. >>> >>> >>> From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:46 AM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>> >>> What was supposed to be shocking exactly? >>> >>> That you have no idea about hardware costs, or that you think I wouldn't >>> have a spare $2500? >>> >>> - WJR >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 08:33, John Aldrich >>> <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> >>> wrote: >>> Actually, I have no idea what a new, fully-loaded 64-bit system will >>> cost. I >>> haven't actually priced one. I was just making up a number for shock >>> value. >>> :D >>> >>> >>> >>> From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:34 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>> Same here. But we don't shop for Alienware PC's to do our "work." >>> >>> - WJR >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 16:28, Don Ely <don....@gmail.com> wrote: >>> $2500?!?!?!?! Funny, my company didn't pay more than $1000 for my quad >>> core >>> with 8GB of RAM.... >>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Stefan Jafs <stefan.j...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> Yeah, I guess the carpet business is flat on the floor in this economy. >>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:08 PM, John Aldrich >>> <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> >>> wrote: >>> Gee... you got an extra $2500+ or so for all new hardware and software? I >>> mean, I'd love to have a nice new 64-bit Windows 7 machine with Office >>> 2010 >>> and all that stuff...but unfortunately, I don't have that. I've got a >>> 3-year-old Optiplex running XP Pro 32-bit. And with the way the economy >>> is >>> going lately, I don't see me getting an upgraded desktop machine any time >>> soon. >>> >>> From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:41 PM >>> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>> Just a thought...perhaps you need a new workstation if those things >>> you've >>> listed tax it's resources to the point that you can't do your job >>> appropriately. >>> >>> But then, given your posts regarding this "problem" today I doubt you'll >>> understand anything I have to say either. But I feel bad for Jonathan >>> whose >>> head seems to be swelling. >>> >>> He's been walking around paraphrasing "Tombstone" of all things... >>> >>> - WJR >>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 14:32, John Aldrich >>> <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> >>> wrote: >>> I *AM* running multiple apps at once. Microsoft LookOut!...err... Outlook >>> is >>> a bit of a resource hog. My AS/400 terminal client is running now, I have >>> a >>> VNC session going, I have Chrome running multiple tabs... so, yeah... my >>> system isn't just sitting here doing nothing. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 2:12 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>> This I don't understand, running of management tools on (sometimes >>> dedicated) servers. Why not go the whole hog and run your email and >>> internet >>> browsing on a server too? If you were using a thin client or a >>> drastically >>> underpowered PC, then this would make sense, but not if you have a decent >>> workstation. >>> >>> I agree that running lots of consoles creates a headache due to startup >>> time >>> and occasionally on a resource basis, so what we try to do is integrate >>> as >>> much stuff as possible into OpsManager, so we don't need to stare at a >>> load >>> of consoles. Then I can only open consoles as I need to work on them. But >>> if >>> your PC can't handle running seven or eight applications including a few >>> management consoles, or if you worry because your machine uses lots of >>> its >>> memory (even though it is there to be used), then you have a few issues >>> that >>> need to be resolved. >>> >>> Just my 2 penneth worth, ymmv >>> Sent from my POS BlackBerry wireless device, which may wipe itself at any >>> moment >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: Steve Ens <stevey...@gmail.com> >>> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:04:20 -0500 >>> To: NT System Admin Issues<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> >>> ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> >>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>> Better on a workstation than on a server is all I can say. >>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:29 PM, John Aldrich >>> <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote: >>> Well, yeah... but I don't choose to load down my workstation with a whole >>> bunch of management consoles and associated crap. :D >>> >>> >>> From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:23 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>> Agreed. I can run the VIPRE console on the server but choose to do it >>> from >>> my desktop machine instead. It's rarely open on the server. >>> >>> >>> Roger Wright >>> ___ >>> Dr. Seuss is my favorite rapper! Cat - Hat... sheer genius! >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Jonathan Link <jonathan.l...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> Why on earth have the console running all the time, then? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:14 PM, John Aldrich >>> <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> >>> wrote: >>> Nope... it's not the Vipre server that's the problem, it's the console. >>> Guess I'll just have to live with manually shutting down the console if I >>> want to reboot the server. It's not that big a deal now that I've decided >>> not to automatically reboot the server weekly. >>> >>> From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 12:59 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: RE: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>> >>> how about a "net stop <vipre services>". I can't test right now, but >>> that >>> seems like it would stop the console too. there's two key vipre >>> services, >>> by the way. If you can "net stop", there's no reason to taskkill >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: Andrew S. Baker [asbz...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:20 AM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>> Well, if they (app vendor) offer no programmatic way to shut the console >>> down, and they (app vendor) are suggesting that you kill the task, then >>> your >>> only other alternative will be an application that programmatically >>> manages >>> the dialog boxes. This approach will likely be complicated by the state >>> of >>> the server (e.g. workstation locked). >>> >>> Process killing is rarely fraught with peril... >>> ASB >>> http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker >>> Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:44 AM, John Aldrich >>> <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote: >>> I suppose there’s no real reason to reboot the server on a scheduled >>> basis… >>> THAT server has never had any real issues… As for not running the Console >>> remotely, I really don’t wish to install it on another machine as it’s a >>> bit >>> of a resource hog. As far as taskkill, I just don’t like killing off a >>> process “just because”, and that’s what that seems like to me. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:25 AM >>> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>> >>> A - Why are you rebooting the server on a scheduled basis? >>> >>> >>> B - Why are you not running the Vipre console remotely? >>> >>> C - What's wrong with Taskkill (assuming you don't wish to address the >>> previous two issues)? >>> ASB >>> http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker >>> Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… >>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:14 AM, John Aldrich >>> <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote: >>> I have to manually shut down Vipre Enterprise Console if I want the >>> server >>> to come up on a scheduled reboot, otherwise it hangs the server and I >>> have >>> to manually power-cycle the server to get it to work. I checked with >>> Sunbelt >>> support and they said there is no way to *programmatically* close the >>> console when I reboot the server (scheduled task, so it's >>> non-interactive.) >>> They suggested using Microsoft's TaskKill. Anyone got any better >>> suggestions? 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~ >>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>> >>> --- >>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >>> >>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>> >>> --- >>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >>> >>> >>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>> >>> --- >>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >>> >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> --- >> To manage subscriptions click here: >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
