"...I work myself out of some positions because I completely automate the 
functions I provided. But I can always provide value in another arena." 

This is the mindset of how I work! I try hard to "eliminate my position" 
because I view it as one measure of success - the less things *I* have to do to 
have some function happen, the less it costs whomever is paying me and I get 
the next challenge to work on.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vipre console hangs server on reboot

The situations are not congruent.

I don't sell hardware. That's not my business. The only hardware that I buy is 
for my employees, myself, and our lab.

But if one of my customers (that would be management or end-user in your case) 
asks me the ballpark figure for a server or a workstation or a laptop - I can 
certainly answer that question. That's part of the value I provide. I can even 
compare/contrast against upkeep of older hardware & software vs. upkeep of 
newer hardware & software; including both soft-costs and hard-costs.

It's MY JOB to provide value. Over time, I work myself out of some positions 
because I completely automate the functions I provided. But I can always 
provide value in another arena.

In my opinion, that's the basic tenet of any service professional.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-----Original Message-----
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 4:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vipre console hangs server on reboot

Steve, let me ask you this -- you want to go out and buy a brand new
Ferrari, but you know you can't afford it. Are you REALLY going to go to all
the trouble of spec-ing it out and pricing it, if you know there's not a
snowball's chance in hell of being able to buy it? I seriously doubt it.
If/when management wants a price for a new PC, I can get them one in a very
short time by going to the Dell Premier website. That at least gets them a
very good estimation of what it's going to cost (might be able to knock a
few bucks off here and there, but it's pretty close to what it's going to
cost.) I, for one, see no need to go through the heartburn of configuring a
new desktop machine that Management isn't going to approve.

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