Nope, the dash is fine. It's in the shop right now for a dent repair - some ****head backed into it and left without a note. The shop has to pull the rack, the canopy and the bumper to remove the right rear panel on the bed to put it back together, and it'll be 3-4 workdays before I have it back again.
I picked up a Chevy Traverse for the rental while it's in the shop, and just drove it home. I'm finding it an interesting drive. Kurt On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 08:00, Robert LeBlanc <[email protected]> wrote: > Is the dash on your Dodge all cracked to Sh&%. Mine is and I bought a dash > mat for it from day one. Apparently a chronic problem with the Dodge RAM's. > Mine is a 2000 though so maybe the used better material in your year. > -----Original Message----- > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 09:52 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot > > I have a 9 year old Kia Rio Cinco, and an 8 year old Dodge Ram 1500 - > both paid for... > > Kurt > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 14:43, Jonathan Link <[email protected]> wrote: >> I have a 5 yo Toyota. >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Steve Ens <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I have a three year old Honda... >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:13 PM, John Aldrich >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Jonathan: >>>> As I just typed a few moments ago -- you want a brand new Ferrari, but >>>> you >>>> know you can't afford the payments. Are you really going to go to the >>>> trouble of configuring it just how you want and getting a price quote or >>>> are >>>> you going to settle for your 3-year-old Honda? Me? I'm settling for the >>>> 3-year-old Honda, because at least I can afford that. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:42 PM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>>> >>>> Sir, we are all extremely real. >>>> If you prick me, do I not bleed? >>>> >>>> Look, you ask for advice. You get advice. You come up with all kinds of >>>> reasons why said advice doesn't work for you. You are very unflexible >>>> when >>>> it comes to taking advice. Or you aren't able to understand the advice >>>> offered. Well, there's always a reason. With everything. And 9 times >>>> out >>>> of 10 it's behavioral. Meaning you could do something a different way. >>>> >>>> Even if they say that there is no budget, you could do a lot of work to >>>> calculate a budget based on certain assumptions. So, you've got a bunch >>>> of >>>> 10 year old equipment. How much did you spend reparing it last year. >>>> How >>>> much would new equipment for 1/3, 1/4 or 1/5 of it cost, and make a plan >>>> to >>>> replace stuff. It may cost more, but you might be suprised. In any >>>> event, >>>> it's obvious you haven't even made the effort. >>>> >>>> It is the lack of effor tthat is irksom to a great many on this list. >>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:31 PM, John Aldrich >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> The reason I have no idea what a new desktop would cost is that >>>> management >>>> is NOT going to approve ANYTHING right now, so why even bother looking??? >>>> Get real! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: William Robbins [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:38 PM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>>> Well that bit didn't shock anyone....except maybe Jonathan who's now >>>> wearing >>>> cowboy boots and looking for a horse to ride. >>>> - WJR >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:20, John Aldrich >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> That I have no idea what a new, fully-configured 64-bit workstation with >>>> Office, a ton of RAM and all the other assorted pieces of software that >>>> would have to be rebought would cost. >>>> >>>> >>>> From: William Robbins [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:46 AM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>>> >>>> What was supposed to be shocking exactly? >>>> >>>> That you have no idea about hardware costs, or that you think I wouldn't >>>> have a spare $2500? >>>> >>>> - WJR >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 08:33, John Aldrich >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> Actually, I have no idea what a new, fully-loaded 64-bit system will >>>> cost. I >>>> haven't actually priced one. I was just making up a number for shock >>>> value. >>>> :D >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: William Robbins [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:34 PM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>>> Same here. But we don't shop for Alienware PC's to do our "work." >>>> >>>> - WJR >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 16:28, Don Ely <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> $2500?!?!?!?! Funny, my company didn't pay more than $1000 for my quad >>>> core >>>> with 8GB of RAM.... >>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Stefan Jafs <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> Yeah, I guess the carpet business is flat on the floor in this economy. >>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:08 PM, John Aldrich >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> Gee... you got an extra $2500+ or so for all new hardware and software? I >>>> mean, I'd love to have a nice new 64-bit Windows 7 machine with Office >>>> 2010 >>>> and all that stuff...but unfortunately, I don't have that. I've got a >>>> 3-year-old Optiplex running XP Pro 32-bit. And with the way the economy >>>> is >>>> going lately, I don't see me getting an upgraded desktop machine any time >>>> soon. >>>> >>>> From: William Robbins [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:41 PM >>>> >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>>> Just a thought...perhaps you need a new workstation if those things >>>> you've >>>> listed tax it's resources to the point that you can't do your job >>>> appropriately. >>>> >>>> But then, given your posts regarding this "problem" today I doubt you'll >>>> understand anything I have to say either. But I feel bad for Jonathan >>>> whose >>>> head seems to be swelling. >>>> >>>> He's been walking around paraphrasing "Tombstone" of all things... >>>> >>>> - WJR >>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 14:32, John Aldrich >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> I *AM* running multiple apps at once. Microsoft LookOut!...err... Outlook >>>> is >>>> a bit of a resource hog. My AS/400 terminal client is running now, I have >>>> a >>>> VNC session going, I have Chrome running multiple tabs... so, yeah... my >>>> system isn't just sitting here doing nothing. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 2:12 PM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>>> This I don't understand, running of management tools on (sometimes >>>> dedicated) servers. Why not go the whole hog and run your email and >>>> internet >>>> browsing on a server too? If you were using a thin client or a >>>> drastically >>>> underpowered PC, then this would make sense, but not if you have a decent >>>> workstation. >>>> >>>> I agree that running lots of consoles creates a headache due to startup >>>> time >>>> and occasionally on a resource basis, so what we try to do is integrate >>>> as >>>> much stuff as possible into OpsManager, so we don't need to stare at a >>>> load >>>> of consoles. Then I can only open consoles as I need to work on them. But >>>> if >>>> your PC can't handle running seven or eight applications including a few >>>> management consoles, or if you worry because your machine uses lots of >>>> its >>>> memory (even though it is there to be used), then you have a few issues >>>> that >>>> need to be resolved. >>>> >>>> Just my 2 penneth worth, ymmv >>>> Sent from my POS BlackBerry wireless device, which may wipe itself at any >>>> moment >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: Steve Ens <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:04:20 -0500 >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]> >>>> ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>>> Better on a workstation than on a server is all I can say. >>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:29 PM, John Aldrich >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Well, yeah... but I don't choose to load down my workstation with a whole >>>> bunch of management consoles and associated crap. :D >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Roger Wright [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:23 PM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>>> Agreed. I can run the VIPRE console on the server but choose to do it >>>> from >>>> my desktop machine instead. It's rarely open on the server. >>>> >>>> >>>> Roger Wright >>>> ___ >>>> Dr. Seuss is my favorite rapper! Cat - Hat... sheer genius! >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Jonathan Link <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> Why on earth have the console running all the time, then? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:14 PM, John Aldrich >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> Nope... it's not the Vipre server that's the problem, it's the console. >>>> Guess I'll just have to live with manually shutting down the console if I >>>> want to reboot the server. It's not that big a deal now that I've decided >>>> not to automatically reboot the server weekly. >>>> >>>> From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 12:59 PM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: RE: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>>> >>>> how about a "net stop <vipre services>". I can't test right now, but >>>> that >>>> seems like it would stop the console too. there's two key vipre >>>> services, >>>> by the way. If you can "net stop", there's no reason to taskkill >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: Andrew S. Baker [[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:20 AM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>>> Well, if they (app vendor) offer no programmatic way to shut the console >>>> down, and they (app vendor) are suggesting that you kill the task, then >>>> your >>>> only other alternative will be an application that programmatically >>>> manages >>>> the dialog boxes. This approach will likely be complicated by the state >>>> of >>>> the server (e.g. workstation locked). >>>> >>>> Process killing is rarely fraught with peril... >>>> ASB >>>> http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker >>>> Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:44 AM, John Aldrich >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I suppose there’s no real reason to reboot the server on a scheduled >>>> basis… >>>> THAT server has never had any real issues… As for not running the Console >>>> remotely, I really don’t wish to install it on another machine as it’s a >>>> bit >>>> of a resource hog. As far as taskkill, I just don’t like killing off a >>>> process “just because”, and that’s what that seems like to me. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:25 AM >>>> >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot >>>> >>>> A - Why are you rebooting the server on a scheduled basis? >>>> >>>> >>>> B - Why are you not running the Vipre console remotely? >>>> >>>> C - What's wrong with Taskkill (assuming you don't wish to address the >>>> previous two issues)? >>>> ASB >>>> http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker >>>> Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… >>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:14 AM, John Aldrich >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I have to manually shut down Vipre Enterprise Console if I want the >>>> server >>>> to come up on a scheduled reboot, otherwise it hangs the server and I >>>> have >>>> to manually power-cycle the server to get it to work. I checked with >>>> Sunbelt >>>> support and they said there is no way to *programmatically* close the >>>> console when I reboot the server (scheduled task, so it's >>>> non-interactive.) >>>> They suggested using Microsoft's TaskKill. Anyone got any better >>>> suggestions? 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