There's more verbal support against dismissing tablets as a viable computing
device for many people -- and businesses.

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On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:40 AM, James Hill <j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au>wrote:

>   Agreed.  There just appears to be a lot more support for the tablet side
> of the discussion.****
>
> ** **
>
> Horses for courses.****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:29 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares****
>
> ** **
>
> I don’t think you’ll find many of the posts here are from proponents who
> are suggesting such.****
>
> ** **
>
> The idea is that there are specific usage cases for which they are
> extremely well suited. But that doesn’t obviate the need for a full-blown PC
> or laptop, any more than a moped alleviates the need for an SUV.****
>
> ** **
>
> -sc****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:24 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares****
>
> ** **
>
> We are creating far more than we ever used to though.  Social networking is
> a big driver of this.  Then add things like bit torrent and non-symmetrical
> internet connections can become an issue.****
>
> ** **
>
> Whilst tablets have their place and are increasing in popularity I couldn’t
> imagine working on one all day at %work%.  My productivity would greatly
> diminish as it would for 99% of my users.****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:00 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares****
>
> ** **
>
> You're wrong. I've been at this long enough that I recall split baud rates
> of 1200/75, because we consume so much more than we create. That's reflected
> in modern cable Download/Upload splits.
>
> YOU may have an 'I need to create' use case, but there are many, many folks
> that the consumption side is more relevant.
>
> Data creation is why computers are so useful? Laughable. ****
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From: *Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> ****
>
> *Date: *Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:54:47 -0700****
>
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>****
>
> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
> >****
>
> *Subject: *Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares****
>
> ** **
>
> Not an Apple hater. I have passed on Android tablets as well. I only own an
> Android phone because work required it, and am ready to abandon that as
> well.
>
> I always presume the need for data creation - it's why computers are so
> useful, and if you have the ability to create data, you automatically have
> the ability to consume it.
>
> The converse isn't true.****
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:09, Gary Slinger <gary.slin...@gmail.com>
> wrote:****
>
> Presumes the need for data creation and skips over all the consumption use
> cases.
>
> Kurt's an apple hater. His opinon is taintendly irrelevant. ****
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From: *James Hill <j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au> ****
>
> *Date: *Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:05:44 +0000****
>
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>****
>
> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
> >****
>
> *Subject: *RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares****
>
> ** **
>
> And to me.  The backspace key is my friend!****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 August 2011 2:03 PM****
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares****
>
>  ****
>
> *>>The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages.
> *
>
> To you.
> ****
>
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> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:**
> **
>
> The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not
> tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other
> digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides,
> given the cost differential - once you take into account the
> peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional
> laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the
> supposed advantages.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link <jonathan.l...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > You're still mostly wooshing here.
> >
> > Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often
> > appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT.  I, of course, know
> > that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the "data processing"
> > department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer to
> > the data, and this was accelerated by the adoption of the PC and PC
> > networks.
> > And have you measured that against the cost of textbooks?  I know a lot
> of
> > administrators are crunching these numbers right now...
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 13:21, Jonathan Link <jonathan.l...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > To put it another way, the data processing group got put out to
> pasture
> >> > of
> >> > days gone by was blindsided by the PC revolution.
> >>
> >> Not really - they just morphed into the IT staff of today - server
> >> administrators. And, mainframes haven't disappeared - again, it's the
> >> minis that got squeezed. IBM still makes a buncha money on mainframes.
> >>
> >> > The current generation
> >> > of tablets are probably the most compelling piece of technology since
> >> > then.
> >>
> >> Perhaps. I've yet to be convinced.
> >>
> >> > Teachers and administrators are very interested in tablets because
> they
> >> > believe they offer so much more capability for viewing and
> distributing
> >> > content!
> >>
> >> The SJRDF is strong, 'tis true. I think the only advantage they show
> >> is weight, and a multi-touch screen. For viewing content, a larger
> >> screen gives better resolution, and for real distribution you still
> >> need the servers on the back end. The capabilities are still lacking,
> >> and the price is still too high.
> >>
> >> Kurt
> >>
>

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