Most ppl can run 5 - 10 of their existing servers as virtual machines on a
single HOST server.
That gives u an idea of how underutilized most hardware is.







On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Matthew W. Ross <mr...@ephrataschools.org>wrote:

> So, since this has come up, I'm curious on how much processing power is
> actually needed for most services?
>
> I have some Quad-Core Xeons which are absolutely underutilized. They are
> doing their jobs (usually serving user home folders and standard Active
> Directory duties) with plenty of horsepower to spare. So it makes me
> wonder: Has anybody tried Windows Server on an Atom?
>
> Take all the other bottlenecks out of the equation: Plenty of RAM, fast HD
> or SSD... does the 1.8 dual core Atom (or the Socket 1155 Celeron) handle
> most tasks just as well as a Dual 6Core Xeon? Aka, could I be getting away
> with less expensive hardware to do the same duties?
>
> I realize if I'm encoding or rendering, the hefty Xeon is a much better
> bet. Or if I'm trying to run VMs, the Atom's not even an option.
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve Ens
> [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011
> 11:26:11 -0700
> Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
>
>
> > I wouldn't.  Just illustrating that it is a lower horsepower CPU.  Good
> for
> > some things, and not for others.  I think the NEO is pretty affordable
> too.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Matthew W. Ross
> > <mr...@ephrataschools.org>wrote:
> >
> > > You could upgrade it to a real (albeit low-power) dual-core Athlon.
> > >
> > > Why would you want to run Autocad on a small form factor PC?
> > >
> > >
> > > --Matt Ross
> > > Ephrata School District
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Steve Ens
> > > [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> > > Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011
> > > 10:40:10 -0700
> > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > >
> > >
> > > > I think AMD Neo....but close enough.  great for everyday use, but
> > > wouldn't
> > > > want to run Autocad on it.  For media playout it runs fine too.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jonathan Link
> > > > <jonathan.l...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I left out similar specs...  Isnt that an Atom processor?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Steve Ens <stevey...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> The Acer Revo series is very nice...great for the living room.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Jonathan Link
> > > > <jonathan.l...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> It's a nice form factor.  Not aware of anything that is quite
> that
> > > small
> > > > >>> in the PC world off the top of my head.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:33 PM, David Lum <david....@nwea.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> "I have a few "Mac Hardware, Windows OS" people in our district,
> > and
> > > > >>>> they run great."
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Out of curiosity....why?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>>> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
> > > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 9:06 AM
> > > > >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > >>>> Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> VMware Fusion. I used to run Virtualbox, but VMWare is a much
> > > slicker
> > > > >>>> product. Parallels is an excellent product, though.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> But if you want to run windows (and only windows) on it, just
> > > install
> > > > >>>> it directly. I have a few "Mac Hardware, Windows OS" people in
> our
> > > > >>>> district, and they run great.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> --Matt Ross
> > > > >>>> Ephrata School District
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >>>> From: Harry Singh
> > > > >>>> [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com]
> > > > >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > >>>> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> > > > >>>> Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011
> > > > >>>> 08:42:40 -0700
> > > > >>>> Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> > Matthew - Are you running Parralells (or whatever the Apple VM
> > > tech
> > > > is
> > > > >>>> > called) or VMware to run the Windows 7 VM simultaneously?
> Single
> > > NIC,
> > > > >>>> > so i assume it's running in a Bridged NAT mode?
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> > The footprint and hardware makes it something i wouldn't mind
> > > playing
> > > > >>>> > around with at home.
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Matthew W. Ross
> > > > >>>> > <mr...@ephrataschools.org>wrote:
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> > > > Are you running mac os Server or client? any major issues
> > with
> > > > >>>> > > > running Server OS as a desktop?
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > We run 10.6 Server on an XServe in the main server room.
> It's
> > > doing
> > > > >>>> > > our Open Directory master stuff.
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > I'm running 10.6 Client on my desktop.
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > --Matt Ross
> > > > >>>> > > Ephrata School District
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >>>> > > From: justino garcia
> > > > >>>> > > [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
> > > > >>>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > >>>> > > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> > > > >>>> > > Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011
> > > > >>>> > > 05:51:20 -0700
> > > > >>>> > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > > Are you running mac os Server or client? any major issues
> > with
> > > > >>>> > > > running Server OS as a desktop?
> > > > >>>> > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Matthew W. Ross
> > > > >>>> > > > <mr...@ephrataschools.org>wrote:
> > > > >>>> > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > My main computers is a Mac Mini. I love this little
> thing.
> > > It's
> > > > >>>> > > > > quite
> > > > >>>> > > the
> > > > >>>> > > > > great piece of hardware.
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > I have it running a VM of Windows 7, and I do my windows
> > > stuff
> > > > >>>> > > > > on
> > > > >>>> > that.
> > > > >>>> > > > > It'd dedicated to a second screen.
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > You got the server, so no DVD drive. Did you get it
> with a
> > > > >>>> second HD?
> > > > >>>> > > If
> > > > >>>> > > > > not, you may want to consider adding one. (There is
> space
> > in
> > > > >>>> > > > > there for
> > > > >>>> > > a
> > > > >>>> > > > > second 2.5" drive.
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > --Matt Ross
> > > > >>>> > > > > Ephrata School District
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >>>> > > > > From: David Lum
> > > > >>>> > > > > [mailto:david....@nwea.org]
> > > > >>>> > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > >>>> > > > > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> > > > >>>> > > > > Sent: Wed, 02 Nov 2011
> > > > >>>> > > > > 15:01:50 -0700
> > > > >>>> > > > > Subject: RE: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > > Hell I dunno, I have this thing on my desk and when it
> > > > reboots
> > > > >>>> > > > > > it's
> > > > >>>> > > like
> > > > >>>> > > > > > R2D2 singing at me "look I know you're there, now shut
> > > up".
> > > > >>>> > > > > > LOL
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > > It surfs the Internet just like a PC, so there's hope
> for
> > > > this
> > > > >>>> > > > > > thing
> > > > >>>> > > > yet.
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:
> > > michealespin...@gmail.com]
> > > > >>>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 2:49 PM
> > > > >>>> > > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > >>>> > > > > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > > So you now have a Mac Mini [server] and a [mini] Mac
> > Mini?
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > > --
> > > > >>>> > > > > > Espi
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:09 AM, David Lum
> > > > >>>> > > > > > <david....@nwea.org<mailto:david....@nwea.org>>
> wrote:
> > > > >>>> > > > > > The thing is the size of portable CD player. Opening
> the
> > > > >>>> > > > > > manual (out
> > > > >>>> > > of
> > > > >>>> > > > > > curiosity, not like I RTFM and with Mac why should I
> have
> > > > >>>> > > > > > to?), the
> > > > >>>> > > > cover
> > > > >>>> > > > > > says simply "Hello." And the opening page says:
> > > > >>>> > > > > > "Congratulations,
> > > > >>>> > you
> > > > >>>> > > > and
> > > > >>>> > > > > > your Mac Mini were made for each other".
> > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >>>> > > > > > No, we weren't, you are a necessary evil you damn Mac
> > > Mini...
> > > > >>>> > > > > > David Lum
> > > > >>>> > > > > > Systems Engineer // NWEATM
> > > > >>>> > > > > > Office 503.548.5229<tel:503.548.5229> // Cell
> > > (voice/text)
> > > > >>>> > > > > > 503.267.9764<tel:503.267.9764>
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