Instead of going (5 or 10) to 1, I suggest (5 or 10) to 2, though. At least you have some functionality if you have physical failure of a host.
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mark Boeck <netadmin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Most ppl can run 5 - 10 of their existing servers as virtual machines on a > single HOST server. > That gives u an idea of how underutilized most hardware is. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Matthew W. Ross > <mr...@ephrataschools.org>wrote: > >> So, since this has come up, I'm curious on how much processing power is >> actually needed for most services? >> >> I have some Quad-Core Xeons which are absolutely underutilized. They are >> doing their jobs (usually serving user home folders and standard Active >> Directory duties) with plenty of horsepower to spare. So it makes me >> wonder: Has anybody tried Windows Server on an Atom? >> >> Take all the other bottlenecks out of the equation: Plenty of RAM, fast >> HD or SSD... does the 1.8 dual core Atom (or the Socket 1155 Celeron) >> handle most tasks just as well as a Dual 6Core Xeon? Aka, could I be >> getting away with less expensive hardware to do the same duties? >> >> I realize if I'm encoding or rendering, the hefty Xeon is a much better >> bet. Or if I'm trying to run VMs, the Atom's not even an option. >> >> >> --Matt Ross >> Ephrata School District >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Steve Ens >> [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] >> Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 >> 11:26:11 -0700 >> Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... >> >> >> > I wouldn't. Just illustrating that it is a lower horsepower CPU. Good >> for >> > some things, and not for others. I think the NEO is pretty affordable >> too. >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Matthew W. Ross >> > <mr...@ephrataschools.org>wrote: >> > >> > > You could upgrade it to a real (albeit low-power) dual-core Athlon. >> > > >> > > Why would you want to run Autocad on a small form factor PC? >> > > >> > > >> > > --Matt Ross >> > > Ephrata School District >> > > >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: Steve Ens >> > > [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] >> >> > > To: NT System Admin Issues >> > > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] >> > > Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 >> > > 10:40:10 -0700 >> > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... >> > > >> > > >> > > > I think AMD Neo....but close enough. great for everyday use, but >> > > wouldn't >> > > > want to run Autocad on it. For media playout it runs fine too. >> > > > >> > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jonathan Link >> > > > <jonathan.l...@gmail.com>wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > I left out similar specs... Isnt that an Atom processor? >> > > > > >> > > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Steve Ens <stevey...@gmail.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > >> The Acer Revo series is very nice...great for the living room. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Jonathan Link >> > > > <jonathan.l...@gmail.com>wrote: >> > > > >> >> > > > >>> It's a nice form factor. Not aware of anything that is quite >> that >> > > small >> > > > >>> in the PC world off the top of my head. >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:33 PM, David Lum <david....@nwea.org> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>>> "I have a few "Mac Hardware, Windows OS" people in our >> district, >> > and >> > > > >>>> they run great." >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> Out of curiosity....why? >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> -----Original Message----- >> > > > >>>> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] >> > > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 9:06 AM >> > > > >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >> > > > >>>> Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> VMware Fusion. I used to run Virtualbox, but VMWare is a much >> > > slicker >> > > > >>>> product. Parallels is an excellent product, though. >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> But if you want to run windows (and only windows) on it, just >> > > install >> > > > >>>> it directly. I have a few "Mac Hardware, Windows OS" people in >> our >> > > > >>>> district, and they run great. >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> --Matt Ross >> > > > >>>> Ephrata School District >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > >>>> From: Harry Singh >> > > > >>>> [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com] >> >> > > > >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >> > > > >>>> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] >> > > > >>>> Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 >> > > > >>>> 08:42:40 -0700 >> > > > >>>> Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> > Matthew - Are you running Parralells (or whatever the Apple >> VM >> > > tech >> > > > is >> > > > >>>> > called) or VMware to run the Windows 7 VM simultaneously? >> Single >> > > NIC, >> > > > >>>> > so i assume it's running in a Bridged NAT mode? >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>> > The footprint and hardware makes it something i wouldn't mind >> > > playing >> > > > >>>> > around with at home. >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Matthew W. Ross >> > > > >>>> > <mr...@ephrataschools.org>wrote: >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>> > > > Are you running mac os Server or client? any major issues >> > with >> > > > >>>> > > > running Server OS as a desktop? >> > > > >>>> > > >> > > > >>>> > > We run 10.6 Server on an XServe in the main server room. >> It's >> > > doing >> > > > >>>> > > our Open Directory master stuff. >> > > > >>>> > > >> > > > >>>> > > I'm running 10.6 Client on my desktop. >> > > > >>>> > > >> > > > >>>> > > >> > > > >>>> > > --Matt Ross >> > > > >>>> > > Ephrata School District >> > > > >>>> > > >> > > > >>>> > > >> > > > >>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > >>>> > > From: justino garcia >> > > > >>>> > > [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] >> >> > > > >>>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues >> > > > >>>> > > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] >> > > > >>>> > > Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 >> > > > >>>> > > 05:51:20 -0700 >> > > > >>>> > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... >> > > > >>>> > > >> > > > >>>> > > >> > > > >>>> > > > Are you running mac os Server or client? any major issues >> > with >> > > > >>>> > > > running Server OS as a desktop? >> > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Matthew W. Ross >> > > > >>>> > > > <mr...@ephrataschools.org>wrote: >> > > > >>>> > > > >> >> > > > >>>> > > > > My main computers is a Mac Mini. I love this little >> thing. >> > > It's >> > > > >>>> > > > > quite >> > > > >>>> > > the >> > > > >>>> > > > > great piece of hardware. >> > > > >>>> > > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > > I have it running a VM of Windows 7, and I do my >> windows >> > > stuff >> > > > >>>> > > > > on >> > > > >>>> > that. >> > > > >>>> > > > > It'd dedicated to a second screen. >> > > > >>>> > > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > > You got the server, so no DVD drive. Did you get it >> with a >> > > > >>>> second HD? >> > > > >>>> > > If >> > > > >>>> > > > > not, you may want to consider adding one. (There is >> space >> > in >> > > > >>>> > > > > there for >> > > > >>>> > > a >> > > > >>>> > > > > second 2.5" drive. >> > > > >>>> > > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > > --Matt Ross >> > > > >>>> > > > > Ephrata School District >> > > > >>>> > > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > >>>> > > > > From: David Lum >> > > > >>>> > > > > [mailto:david....@nwea.org] >> >> > > > >>>> > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues >> > > > >>>> > > > > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] >> > > > >>>> > > > > Sent: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 >> > > > >>>> > > > > 15:01:50 -0700 >> > > > >>>> > > > > Subject: RE: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... >> > > > >>>> > > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > > > Hell I dunno, I have this thing on my desk and when >> it >> > > > reboots >> > > > >>>> > > > > > it's >> > > > >>>> > > like >> > > > >>>> > > > > > R2D2 singing at me "look I know you're there, now >> shut >> > > up". >> > > > >>>> > > > > > LOL >> > > > >>>> > > > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > > > It surfs the Internet just like a PC, so there's >> hope for >> > > > this >> > > > >>>> > > > > > thing >> > > > >>>> > > > yet. >> > > > >>>> > > > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > > > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto: >> > > michealespin...@gmail.com] >> > > > >>>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 2:49 PM >> >> > > > >>>> > > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues >> > > > >>>> > > > > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... >> > > > >>>> > > > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > > > So you now have a Mac Mini [server] and a [mini] Mac >> > Mini? >> > > > >>>> > > > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > > > -- >> > > > >>>> > > > > > Espi >> > > > >>>> > > > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:09 AM, David Lum >> > > > >>>> > > > > > <david....@nwea.org<mailto:david....@nwea.org>> >> wrote: >> > > > >>>> > > > > > The thing is the size of portable CD player. Opening >> the >> > > > >>>> > > > > > manual (out >> > > > >>>> > > of >> > > > >>>> > > > > > curiosity, not like I RTFM and with Mac why should I >> have >> > > > >>>> > > > > > to?), the >> > > > >>>> > > > cover >> > > > >>>> > > > > > says simply "Hello." 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